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Welcome to the Batters Box top 30 Blue Jay prospects for 2013. Five of your trusted minor league correspondents pooled their votes to come up with the list. The same trusty five shared the task of writing the prospect descriptions you see below.

The system has seen a lot of movement since 2012.  Travis d'Arnuad, Noah Syndergaard, Jake Marisnick, Adeiny Hechavarria, Justin Nicolino and Sam Dyson were traded.  Five of last years top six prospects were moved to get that extra win from the major league team.

In total, forty prospects received at least one vote.  Twenty three of the top thirty were named on all five ballots.  There was plenty of agreement over who the top twenty prospects were, in name at least.  After those top 20 there are a mixture of players at AAA who might or might not get more than a cup of coffee in the major leagues and on the other side there are a ton of kids in the lower levels who haven't shown much yet.  Do you value Deck McGuire or Ryan Goins higher than Jacob Brentz or LB Dantzler?  The former will probably play a limited role in the major leagues, the latter could develop into all-stars or they could flame out.  

As usual we have split the top 30 into three installments, running Monday through Wednesday. 

We hope you enjoy the list and the discussion.




30. Adonys Cardona | RHP

Year Age Level G GS IP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
2011
17 Rk 10 7 31.2 8.80 0.57 3.40 9.95 4.55
2012
18 Rk 8 2 15.2 8.60 0.58 5.74 11.49 6.32
2013
19 Rk 8 5 25.1 12.43 0.36 4.62 9.59 6.75

 

It was only just over three years ago that the Blue Jays gave 16-year-old international free agent Adonys Cardona $2.8 million to sign with the club. However, it also kind of seems like ages ago since Toronto signed the right-handed pitcher to a record bonus for a Venezuelan amateur free agent.

Cardona spent his first two years in North America with the Gulf Coast Blue Jays. Over those two seasons, Cardona combined for 47.1 innings pitched, given his 2012 season was shortened by injury. As a 17 and 18-year-old, he struck out 55.

In 2013, Cardona threw 25.1 innings for Bluefield before being shut down in the first week of August for precautionary reasons due to an elbow issue, which is not expected to impact him going forward. Cardona posted a 6.75 ERA for Bluefield over five starts and three relief appearances. He struck out batters at a strong clip with 27 punch-outs in 25.1 innings. However, Cardona also displayed his trademark lack of control by walking 13 batters in that stretch. We also knew that Cardona threw at least 28 innings in extended spring training this year, where he posted a 10.4 K/9 and a 6.4:1 K:BB ratio.

He throws a plus potential fastball that sits in the low 90s, which he still struggles to control on a consistent basis. Cardona also features a curve and a change with the potential to be at least average major league pitches. Again, he struggles with control and consistency with his secondary offerings.

Cardona’s age still gives fans reason to remain optimistic. He’s still only 19 and has plenty of time to realize his potential. He was one of seven Blue Jays named as one of the Top 20 prospects in the Appalachian League by Baseball America. He possesses as much potential as any player in the lower half of the list, although there may be more questions after this season about whether his future may lie in the bullpen.

 

 

29. Deck McGuire | RHP

Year Age Level G GS IP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
2011
22 A+ 19
21 104.2 7.7
0.8
3.3 8.8 2.75
2011
22 AA 4 3 20.2 8.7 1.7 3.0
9.6
4.35
2012
23 AA 28 28 144.0 10.1 1.4 3.9 6.1
5.88
2013
24
AA
27
26
157.1
8.5
0.7
3.4
8.2
4.86

  

 

Deck was the first draft pick of the Alex Anthopolous regime back in 2011, 11th overall out of college from Georgia Tech.  He was supposed to be a safe, but low-upside pick that would move through the minors fast and profile as a mid to back-end starter in the majors. 

After a strong 2011 in Dunedin, Deck had a rough 2012 in New Hampshire and the beginning of 2013 was no different.  But in the second half of 2013, Deck’s numbers across the board were much better with a 3.88 ERA in comparison to the 5.51 ERA he had in the first half. 

Given his pedigree as a former 1st-round pick, and strong finish to 2013, Deck is likely to be added to the 40-man roster this winter to be protected for the upcoming Rule-5 Draft. 

 

 

28. Jeremy Gabryszwski | RHP



Year Age Level G GS IP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
2011 18 Rk+ 1 0 1.0
9.0
0.0
0.0
9.0
0.00
2011 18 Rk- 3 1 4.1 6.2 0.0 2.1 10.4 0.00
2012 19 Rk+ 11 9 46.0 8.6 0.98 0.8 4.3 2.35
2013 20 A- 14 14 76.2 8.3 0.00 1.2 4.7 2.82

 

The 78th overall pick of the 2011 amateur draft, Jeremy Gabryszwski enjoyed a tremendous start to the 2013 campaign with the Vancouver Canadians. His earned run average was 0.99 as of late July, which earned him a trip to Everett for the Northwest League All-Star Game. A rough start in Eugene July 28 started a downward trend for Gabryszwski as his ERA ballooned to 4.35 for the month of August. He did earn the victory in Game 2 of the Northwest League semi-final by going five innings but giving up four runs on eight hits with one walk and one strikeout. That start was a microcosm of his season in terms of his strikeout and walk totals. He struck out only a few batters but walked even fewer, issuing just 11 free passes in 81 2/3 innings in the regular season and post season combined.

Gabryszwski is a four-pitch pitcher with the ability to throw all four pitches for strikes. His fastball did touch the low 90’s but was usually in the 87-89 miles per hour range. His curveball clocked in at 77-78 miles per hour, his changeup was in the low-80s and his slider was around the mid-80s. Using the weighted ball program championed by Jays reliever Steve Delabar, Gabryszwski needs to increase his strikeout total as he makes his way up the minor league ladder. He is expected to make the jump to full-season ball in Lansing in 2014. The 6-4 ,195 pound native of Crosby, Texas turns 21 on March 16.

 


27. Kenny Wilson | OF

 

Year Age Level AB 2B 3B HR BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2008
18
Rk
162
6
2
0
20
60
25
3
.210
.319
.272
2009
19
Rk
25
2
1
0
3
8
3
1
.200
.310
.360
2009
19
A
321
12
3
4
35
99
37
12
.205
.315
.251
2010
20
A
361
10
4
0
51
112
35
11 .216
.326
.266
2010
20
A+
58
1
0
0
8
15
5
0
.138
.242
.155
2011
21
A+
164
8
2
0
16
52
17
4
.201
.296
.274
2012
22
A
349
13
6
4
44
75
41
8
.252
.360
.358
2012
22
A+
117
6
0
1
14
22
14
4
.282
.368
.359
2013
23
Rk
9
0
0
0
2
2
0
1
.222
.364
.222
2013
23
A+
8
2
0
0
2
1
1
0
.625
.700
.875
2013
23
AA
216
14
1
3
19
56
16
6
.259
.333
.375

 

From 2008 through 2011 Kenny Wilson did not hit. His highest batting average in those years was .216 in Lansing in 2010. Wilson was a switch hitter when he first signed with the Jays but by 2011 that was over, he became a right handed hitter exclusively. The other issue affecting wilson has been injuries. In 2011 and again in 2013 Wilson has missed time.

Now we are at the end of 2013 and Wilson is a 23 year old with a half season of AA experience. Wilson is still not a great hitter, he hit just .259 in AA this season. But his hitting has been getting better and his strikeout rate has improved since he gave up switch hitting. And Wilson still has speed, good for stealing bases and playing centre field. At this stage of his development Wilson is looking like a utility outfielder, a strong defender who can play any outfield position, a guy who can pinch run in games. But Wilson needs to continue to improve at the plate to get into Rajai Davis territory.

Wilson has played well in the first week of the AFL. He is the type of player who could be a rule 5 selection. His defense and speed could let a team hide him away for a season on their roster. But it probably would not be good for Wilson as he needs another 500 minor league at-bats to work on his hitting. The Jays might take that risk of losing him with their other options up the middle.

Assuming Wilson is still a Jay he will return to AA to get those at-bats.

 

 

26. Rowdy Tellez | 1B

Year Age Level AB 2B 3B HR BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2013
18
Rk
124
5
3
2
15
26
1
0 .234
.319
.371

 

I don’t know if I’m allowed to say this, but I don’t get the love for Tellez. Sure, the Jays haven’t had a legitimate power threat come through the system in a while and those YouTube videos of him crushing balls at Tropicana with a metal bat sure do look cool. But that is one hell of a long swing and I’m not at all convinced he has elite bat speed. All this and he’s confined to first and not reported to be one of those Gold Glove-type defenders has me asking why?

Well, the reports out at draft time said he had some of the best power in the class and power like this, much like the left-handed power pitcher, does not come around all to often. These same reports say he has potential for an above average approach. Anyways, put those two together and you have a very exciting prospect on your hands.

After signing, Tellez played in 34 games in the Gulf Coast. The numbers aren’t great and one would hope it gave Mr. Tellez an idea of what he needs to do this offseason to get ready for the competition. The hope will be he does show progress at camp and extended spring training to warrant the first base job at Bluefield.

 

 

25. Jairo Labourt | LHP

 

Year Age Level G GS IP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
2012
18
Rk-
12
12
38.0
9.0
0.5
5.5
9.2
3.79
2013
19
Rk+
12
8
51.2
6.8
0.5
2.4
7.8
1.92

Signed out of the Dominican Republic with a $350,000 bonus in 2011, Jairo Labourt made impressive strides with Bluefield in 2013. He was able to increase his groundball percentage while not losing too much on his strikeout rate. His groundball percentage was 56 percent, an increase from 38 in the Gulf Coast League last season. His groundout/airout ratio checked in at 3.1 while striking out 45 batters in 51 2/3 innings. He had a WHIP of 1.03 but he had some help from the BABIP gods with a .248 average. An ERA below 2.00 with Bluefield earned Labourt a call up to Vancouver for Game 1 of the Northwest League final in Boise. Though he came out on the short end of a pitching duel with Cubs prospect Dillon Maples, Labourt was able to rack up 10 strikeouts and permitted just three runs in 5 2/3 innings. Labourt’s effort allowed Vancouver to line up their rotation with Kyle Anderson and Tom Robson for Games 2 and 3 and they went on to win their third Northwest League title.

At 6-foot-4, 200 pounds, Labourt is said to be a good athlete with a solid delivery that helps him throw strikes. His fastball registered in the 89-92 MPH range, touching 94. His slider was around 83-85 and his changeup, said to be a work in progress, was around 77-79. Labourt was rated the #12 prospect in the Appalachian League by Baseball America, who also named him the league’s top lefthanded pitcher. Labourt may be in line to make the transition to full season ball in Lansing next season. He will turn 20 on March 7.





24. Santiago Nessy | C

Year Age Level AB 2B 3B HR BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2011
18
Rk
134
7
0
3
8
29
0
2
.306
.347
.425
2012
19
Rk
160
8
0
8
13
47
0
0
.256
.320
.456
2012
19
A-
22
1
0
1
3
7
0
0
.091
.200
.273
2013
20
A
224
15
0
5
13
59
0
0
.241
.293
.375

Santiago Nessy is a catcher and that is the main reason why he is on this list.  In many ways Nessy has been a disappointment.  he has been injured a lot, this years 224 at-bats are a career high.  He strikes out close to 30% of the time and this year his batting average was just .241.

So why is he on the list?  First, he is a catcher and that position takes a toll on players and their performance.  second Nessy played in the Midwest league this year as a 20 year old.  And finally Nessy has good power, he had 54 hits this year and 20 were for extra bases.

Nessy still needs to put it all together, he needs to play hard on defense and improve on his hitting.  I can see Nessy returning to the MWL as a 21 year old next year to focus on improving his skills.

 

23. Ryan Goins | SS/2B

 

Year Age Level AB 2B 3B HR BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2009
21
Rk-
9
0
0
0
0
2
0 0 .111 .111
.111
2009
21
A-
101 5 1
0
8
23
2
2
.297
.349
.366
2009
21
A
81
4
0
0
7
23
1
2
.198
.258
.247
2010
22
A
295
19
2
3
35 60 6
7 .308
.380
.417
2010
22
A+
166
9
0
0
11
33 1
1
.205
.251
.259
2011
23
Rk-
3
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
.000
.000
.000
2011
23
A+
353
24
5
3
32
67
2
2 .286 .343
.408
2012
24
AA
546
33
4
7
47
78
15
9
.289
.342
.403
2013
25
AAA
377
22
1
6
29
85
3 5 .257
.311
.369
2013
25
MLB
119
5
0
2
2
28
0
0 .252 .264
.345

The Jays' 4th round pick out of Dallas Baptist in 2009, Ryan Goins made quite a splash in his major league debut. Called up from Buffalo in late August after Maicer Izturis went on the disabled list, Goins tied Jesse Barfield’s 1981 club record for hitting in eight straight games to begin his major league career. However, his biggest impact came with the glove as he helped tighten up the defence at second base. His range, poise and instincts were widely praised as the Jays began to turn more double plays upon his arrival. It could be argued that Goins may have played the best second base in Toronto since the halcyon days of Hall of Famer Roberto Alomar.

Unfortunately, the 5-foot-10 lefthander hitter is nothing like Alomar with the bat. His OPS barely cleared .600 during his 34-game trial with the Jays and it was only .679 with the Bisons. His batting eye also suffered as his walk rate dipped from 6.9 percent in Buffalo to 1.2 percent in Toronto. His running game in terms of stolen bases took a step back. After stealing 15 bases with New Hampshire in 2012, he was only successful thrice in Buffalo and he didn’t even bother attempting to swipe a bag with the Jays. Still, he has managed to win back-to-back R. Howard Webster awards as the top Blue Jays minor leaguer in New Hampshire and Buffalo. Goins will vie for the second base job with the big club in 2014. He will turn 26 on February 13.

 


22. Clinton Hollon | RHP

Year Age Level G GS IP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
2013 18 Rk 4 2 12 1.5 0.0 2.2 7.5 0.00
2013 18 Rk 2 1 5.1 10.1 1.7 5.1 8.4 10.12

While Hollon may have been a surprise pick to some, he fits the profile of what the Jays have been drafting in recent years. At one point in the cycle, Hollon had some serious follow. He was up into the high-90s with an electric fastball and showed real promise with the breaking ball. He remains athletic and has a good, albeit on the small-side frame. An elbow issue hit and teams took notice that his spring stuff leading up to the draft was not what they saw in the winter and previous summer. The Jays though follow these kids pretty extensively and where teams clearly balked, the Jays look to have gotten a steal in Hollon in the second round, and at a highly discounted bonus.

Much like Smoral last year, I thought Hollon would sit out the rest of the summer. It turns out the elbow injury was not as bad as reported and he pitched a very impressive dozen innings at Rookie ball and a short stint with Bluefield after signing. I’m going to go out on a limp here and say the Jays probably did a bit less tinkering with Hollon than they did to Tyler Gonzales. The two have somewhat similar stuff and deliveries. Where the Jays have completely retooled Gonzales to disastrous effect so far, I doubt very much they’ve changed Hollon to the same degree.

Hollon pitched a couple innings at a time in Florida this past season, so look for Hollon to continue to be stretched out for a rotation spot somewhere in short season next year. Video and reports on Hollon are sparse, so hopefully he pitches his way to Vancouver.


 

21. Dalton Pompey | OF

Year Age Level AB 2B 3B HR BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2010
17
Rk
47
0
0
2
3
10
4
1
.191
.255
.319
2011
18
Rk
68
3
0
1
14
23
4
1
.191
.353
.279
2011
18
Rk
158
7
2
4
24
35
19
0
.259
.361
.405
2012
19
Rk
14
1
1
0
0
2
1
0 .357
.357
.571
2012
19
A-
44
3
1
0
9
7
3
0
.294
.442
.441
2012
19
A
24
0
1
0
1
5
1
1
.227
.261
.318
2013
20
A
437
22
9
6
63
106
38
10 .261
.358
.394

 

Dalton Pompey is a Canadian outfielder drafted out of John Fraser Secondary School in Mississauga in the 16th round of the 2010 draft. Pompey had struggled with injuries until this year, when he finally made it through a season healthy. Despite this, the Jays had promoted Pompey relatively aggressively, particularly in light of his injury history, as he had reached Lansing at the end of 2012.

As it was predicted in last year’s Top 30, where he ranked 28th, Pompey returned to Lansing this year and spent the entire year in the Midwest League and finally had an injury-free season. Pompey held his own for Lansing, batting .261 with a .358 on-base percentage and a .394 slugging percentage.

Pompey’s always demonstrated a good batting eye in the minors and there is a little bit of power potential there, which he may grow into as he matures. Pompey’s best two tools are his speed and defense. After the hammate injury that limited him in 2012, Pompey got back to running on the bases and racked up 38 stolen bases. In 175 games between 2011 and 2012, Pompey has gone 61 for 72 in stolen base attempts. He’s a true center fielder, where he spent nearly all of his time this year, and he made it through 2013 without committing an error.

Although he doesn’t come with the same pedigree as some of the other names on this list, Pompey is intriguing as a plus defensive center fielder with speed and a good batting eye. He has power potential and if he can continue to hit for a reasonable average as he progresses, he has a chance to be a useful major leaguer. After a full season at Lansing, Pompey will probably go to High-A next year and hope for another similarly healthy and promising season

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Mike Green - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 08:58 AM EDT (#279960) #
Pompey hit for a lot of power at the end of the year, and he does take a pretty good rip at the plate in video. When you add that to plus defence in centerfield, very good speed and pretty good plate control, he'd probably be a lot higher than #21 on my list.
John Northey - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 08:59 AM EDT (#279961) #
Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 09:28 AM EDT (#279962) #
I agree with you Mike, I probably would have put Pompey somewhere between 15 and 20.  He is definitely a toolsy guy, good speed, good defense, etc.  He did hit for more power at the end of the year which was encouraging, but I would like that power to be more gap to gap than over the wall power.  He is a very skinny, tall kid and has a ways to go to grow into his body.  He could put on 20 pounds really easy honestly.
Mike Green - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 09:49 AM EDT (#279963) #
LF, you got to watch Dwight Smith Jr. and Pompey quite a bit.  Who do you like better?  Smith obviously has the better draft pedigree and seems to be a better pure hitter (with maybe somewhat more power), but can't hit lefties at all (Pompey switch-hits and seems to be equally able from both sides) and is a lesser defender. 



whiterasta80 - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:17 AM EDT (#279965) #
I had no idea that Pompey had shown as much as he had. That's a very encouraging profile.
Paul D - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:18 AM EDT (#279966) #
Do teams ever suggest that a player try switch-hitting, or is it only the other way? I can see how it'd be difficult to learn hitting from a new side, but still, I'm curious if it's ever happened.
Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:18 AM EDT (#279967) #

Goodness, that is a tough question Mike.  There are a lot of similarities between the two honestly.

I think Smith is going to be the better hitter long term, and is probably a safer bet on reaching the Major Leagues.  Pompey right now is a wild card to me right now.  I like Pompey's athletic ability just a bit more than Smith though and he is faster than Smith.  With experinece and maturity, my thoughts may change.

One other thing to point out is that Smith has a pretty good resource at his disposal to work in his dad.  His dad was occasionally present during BP in Lansing and worked with a lot of guys.  The Jays basically have a free roving instructor at their disposal.

Mike Green - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#279968) #
LF, maybe we'll table the discussion of Smith and Pompey (which I think is interesting) until after BB weighs in on Smith.  The only thing I'll say at this time is that I am not quite as confident about Smith making it to the majors.  There just seem to be fewer slots for platoon players.  I guess that there is more need for it in the National League, where you could easily see Smith as a platoon OF/pinch-hitter for the Cardinals (say).





Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:34 AM EDT (#279969) #

It's an intersting discussion for sure Mike.  Like I said, it is honestly a tough question.  I can see where you see a future "platoon" guy with Smith.  Scouts that I talked to had mixed reviews on Pompey.  One thought he would top out at AA, another thought that he may have MLB potential.  I don't think we will really know for a few years honestly. 

I will say Smith's power did surprise me.  He hit with more pop than I thought he would coming into the season and he was much broader in the shoulders and the chest than I had thought as well.

Beyonder - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:36 AM EDT (#279970) #
Pompey won the minor league gold glove for centre field this year. Is he really just a "plus" defender?
John Northey - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:18 AM EDT (#279971) #
Just thinking - how many of these guys will get much of a shot or have much of a career?  Lets see some old 21-30 lists...
2005: Link: lots made the show, but just for cups of coffee
2006: Link : fewer making it for even coffee
2007: Link : Brad Mills had a few cups, but most never made it
2008: Link: Joel Carreno has had a bit of a chance, Moises Sierra still is a prospect, that's about it
2009: Link: Jake Marisnick is in the majors now, Trystan Magnuson had a brief stay, Luis Perez has a fair amount of time in the pen, AJ Jimenez is still a prospect, Brad Emaus got a shot as a starter in NYM but flopped and seems to be out of baseball now.
2010: Link: now getting lots of guys who are still kicking like Marcus Knecht, Gustavo Pierre, Griffin Murphy, Dickie Joe Thon, Drew Hutchison (who has ML experience), and Noah Syndergaard who we want back
2011: Link: Sean Nolin has a brief appearance here, Chad Jenkins also has a bit of ML time.

So lots of guys who got shots but few who became much so far.  Marisnick might, Jimenez we hope, Hutchison had a shot and hopefully will get another, Syndergaard might make the Jays regret trading him, Nolin we hope makes the team on merit soon.
Gerry - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:21 AM EDT (#279972) #
Teams do sometimes suggest switch hitting.  Usually they do it to a right handed hitter who has a lot of speed.  But it is a difficult change to make and you have to get the player trying it at a young age.
jerjapan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:26 AM EDT (#279973) #
was Dyson traded?  I thought he was a waiver loss.  never understood calling him up and wasting a resource like that. 
Wildrose - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:37 AM EDT (#279974) #
Gerry is it quite common for minor league pitchers in the system to be using the weighted ball program?
ramone - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:47 AM EDT (#279975) #
There are some solid reports on Tellez coming out of instructs from twitter and BA had this to say as well:

“The lefthanded-hitting Tellez could become an above-average power hitter at the major league level and has unparalleled raw power in this class”
Gerry - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:50 AM EDT (#279976) #

I would not say that it is common for pitchers to be on the weighted ball program.  I did ask both Doug Davis and Dane Johnson about it this year in some of the interviews I posted here.  My impression is that the Jays are evaluating the program on a subset of pitchers.  I think they are targetting guys who have had shoulder issues, guys whose velo has dropped and pitchers who really want to do it.  I do think it is still in the evaluation phase in the system.  I don't think many of the young pitchers are on it yet.

I just went back to see what Dane Johnson said about it, here it is:

Its on an experimental basis right now with certain guys that we are implementing it on.  First with guys who need help bouncing back better.  The weighted ball program is a two headed monster, are we looking for more velocity?  Its not something we are looking for.  Do we have guys on it that it might help velocity wise, absolutely.  We have guys on it who need help with shoulder maintenance and shoulder routines.  It has been implemented at certain levels with certain guys and we are still looking at feedback from that.  We think its going to work, we are in, at the end of the year we will sit back and assess.  We have already had some nice feedback on it.

Mike Green - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:50 AM EDT (#279977) #
Thanks, LF.  One more question about Pompey.  Of the centerfielders who have passed through Lansing in the last 10 years or so, including Kenny Wilson, Felix Pie and Jake Marisnick, where would Pompey fit defensively?
Gerry - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 11:55 AM EDT (#279978) #
Tellez seems to have improved from when he was drafted.  However the list of players drafted as first basemen out of high school who make it is small.  There is so much competition from failed catchers, third basemen and outfielders that you have to really stand out.  Also you usually don't really know if a firstbaseman is a true prospect until he has all his power, usually by age 23 or so. 
Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 12:43 PM EDT (#279980) #

Defensively, I would put Pompey behind Pie, maybe slightly above or on par with Marisnick and I would put him ahead of Kenny Wilson.

MLB career be damned, Pie is the best player I have ever seen put a uniform on in Lansing.

China fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#279981) #
"....I’m going to go out on a limp here...."

Gerry, you suffered an ankle injury from writing up the prospect report?
Mike Green - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 12:55 PM EDT (#279982) #
Thanks, LF, for the ranking.
whiterasta80 - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 01:31 PM EDT (#279985) #
Likewise LF, I appreciate the insight.

I have to say, for all the flack that our system has taken after shedding 5 top prospects, I am still fairly pleased with our #21-30. There are some pretty exciting prospects (Tellez, Cardonys) for such a low ranking.
Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 02:06 PM EDT (#279987) #
Gerry and the team here are far better evaluators than myself.  I'm just an uneducated observer that occasionally has an opinion.
Richard S.S. - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 05:39 PM EDT (#280004) #
I thought Ryan Goins was inelligible for these lists. Or was it the 119 ABs that did not exceed limits or the age 25-ish limit? I don't care, he's Toronto's Starting 2B until we find out different.

Isn't next year a watershed year for Deck McGuire? He needs to show if he's an asset or a MLB Pitcher.

No one else on this list is likely to impact the Team this offseason or next year.
China fan - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 07:06 PM EDT (#280008) #
Prospect #25, Jairo Labourt, is the discovery of this list for me. I didn't know much about him before now. If he's in Lansing as a 20-year-old southpaw next season, he sounds like an excellent prospect. Ten strikeouts, in less than 6 innings, in his Vancouver debut, is also very encouraging. Thanks for spotlighting him on this list.
whiterasta80 - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 08:47 PM EDT (#280009) #
That's the beauty of these lists, and why I truly appreciate the effort that everyone puts into these each season: we likely all know a fair bit about the Jays system, but there's a good chance that there is someone worth looking at you haven't seen yet. A few years ago for me it was Tim Collins, this year it seems to have been Pompey. I agree that Labourt looks interesting. It'd be nice if he can carry the success to Vancouver next season.
raptorsaddict - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#280010) #
I agree that there seems to be more high end talent this year on the back end. Pompey, Tellez, Cardona, Labourt, Hollon and Gabbzyzskdii are all legitimately intriguing players who have yet to prove they suck, and who I can at least still dream of being average to above average players in the Majors. That hasn't always been the case with the 30-21 list.

I've always had a soft spot for Kenny Wilson. If he gets those 500 more ab's in AA we'll have a much better idea of whether he can be Rajai-esque. I like to think he's a late bloomer.

As to the Pompey vs. Smith "debate", I don't think the Dwight Sr.-factor can be discounted. I just have no idea how to factor it in. On the one hand, Smith has obviously had every possible advantage in developing as a ball player as far as coaching, access to trainers, insider experience of the game, etc. The question is, does this mean he has an advantage for the rest of his life, in that it's made him better? Or does it mean he's already tapped out every available ounce of skill and will regress to the pack when his peers begin to benefit from being in a pro baseball environment? I have no idea what the answer to that question is.

I have no idea about Dalton Pompey's upbringing, but I'd hazard a guess he didn't have the same advantages, and in fact had a very real disadvantage by being born in the relative baseball-backwater of Canada (as opposed to, say, Florida or California). From an outsiders perspective, it seems there is more untapped potential in Pompey than in Smith, but also much higher risk of failure.

I know statistical analysis has (very rightfully) won the day in player analysis, but that doesn't take away from the very real human element involved in any work environment, and it's fun to play armchair sports psychologist on the interwebs.

As always, thanks to the wonderful crew of contributors here on Da Box for their tireless efforts that help make this the best Jays site on the web.



raptorsaddict - Tuesday, October 22 2013 @ 10:34 PM EDT (#280011) #
Forgot to mention: finding out Jairo Labourt is a lefty was the unexpected highlight of the list. For some reason, I always thought he was a righty. I am happy to have been wrong.
85bluejay - Wednesday, October 23 2013 @ 08:32 AM EDT (#280014) #
Thanks to everyone for the work that goes into this list - My initial reaction, a rather dreary, uninspiring list - only Labourt & Hollon excite & that's probably because they are so far away that it's easy to dream about rather than actual production - I've always had a soft spot for Kenny Wilson, but time seems to have passed him by - though I have low expectations, I'll be cheering enthusiastically for Ontario kid Dalton Pompey.
Wildrose - Wednesday, October 23 2013 @ 10:54 AM EDT (#280025) #
Thanks Gerry about the weighted ball exercise program. I guess they are being cautious and doing their due diligence. I hope it turns out to be a good system.
jerjapan - Wednesday, October 23 2013 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#280029) #

My initial reaction, a rather dreary, uninspiring list

I actually feel the opposite about this bunch.  As John has pointed out, tough for prospects in this range to make a contribution, but there is a fair amount of upside in some of these guys - Hollon and Tellez particularly - and the low ceiling guys look like they have some utility and are a safer bet to contribute then some from previous year's lists.  Wilson could easily be a 4th OF, Goins a utility guy, Nessy a backup catcher.  Even McGuire could be a cheap bullpen arm / 5th starter for a few years. 

always nice to have a Canuck to cheer for as well.

Jdog - Saturday, October 26 2013 @ 11:48 AM EDT (#280095) #
Shane Dawson >> Jeremy Gabryszwski.

Enjoyed the write up. I am hoping there is the usual Prospects to watch section coming up as I think there are a lot of projectable young arms with potential who weren't able to crack the top 30.
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