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The Philadelphia Phillies ended their 28 year-old championship drought by beating the Tampa Bay Rays 4-3 in Game 5 of the World Series Wednesday night at Citizens Bank Park.  Cole Hamels was named Series MVP.

The Phillies wasted no time breaking the 2-2 tie in the bottom of the sixth when Brett Favre's twin double, Geoff Jenkins, hit a leadoff double against his former Brewers teammate Grant Balfour Jimmy Rollins moved him over to third on a sac bunt and Jayson Werth blooped an RBI single that Rays second baseman Akinori Iwamura couldn't corral in short center field because the Rays infield was playing in.   

Rocco Baldelli quickly tied it for Tampa Bay with a one-out homer off Ryan Madson in the seventh.  Jason Bartlett followed with a single and J.P. Howell, who relieved Balfour after he gave up Werth's blooper, stayed in the game and moved Bartlett over to second with a sac bunt.  In what was really the TSN turning point of the game (I know it was on Fox and Sportsnet, okay?),  Iwamura hit one up the middle off J.C. Romero and it had "clean RBI single" written all over it.  Instead, Chase Utley ranged over to get the ball and instead of throwing to first, he threw the ball to home to nail Jason Bartlett at the plate as Bartlett was going all the way on contact.   That was the final out and it kept the game tied.

Howell remained in the game for the Rays and faced Pat Burrell to start off the seventh, even though Burrell hits lefties much better than righties (.279 vs. .238 during the regular season).  The Phillies long-time whipping boy, in what may turn out to be his final at-bat with the club as he will become a free agent, sent a drive to deep center that just missed going out.  He wound up at second instead.  Chad Bradford came on to face Shane Victorino, who couldn't get a bunt down but still managed to move pinch-runner Eric Bruntlett to third with a two-strike grounder to the right side of the infield.  The bearded one then came home to score on a Pedro Feliz base knock up the middle.

The Rays tried to battle back in the eighth when Carl Crawford singled off Romero to lead things off but he was gone one pitch later on the front end of a 6-4-3 double play off the bat of B.J. UptonCarlos Pena then lined out to left on a 3-1 pitch to end the inning.  David Price finally came into the game for the Rays in the eighth and managed to keep the Phils off the scoreboard as he struck out Ryan Howard to strand Utley, who had walked and stolen second.

Tampa tried to rally again against "Mr. Perfect", Brad Lidge, when Dioner Navarro got abord on a broken-bat flare to right.  Pinch-runner Fernando Perez easily stole second but had to remain there when pinch-hitter Ben Zobrist lined out to right.  It all came down to Eric Hinske, who was only activated on the Rays roster when Cliff Floyd cried uncle to a shoulder injury.  Hinske had homered in his lone at-bat of the Series in Game 4 but the former Jay went down swinging on three straight Lidge sliders and just like that, the series and the 2008 baseball season was over.  

Congratulations to the Phillies and to former Jays Jayson Werth, Scott Eyre, Canadian Matt Stairs  and former general manager Pat Gillick, who is now 3-for-3 in the big dance.  The man who built the club to stop the Phillies in their last World Series appearance in 1993 is now the toast of the town in the City of Brotherly Love. 

Mitch Williams, all is now forgiven!  You're the latest member of the Bill Buckner club.  Steve Bartman is still waiting.

On a personal note, I guess I won my own Game 5 contest by coming the closest.  I predicted J.C. Romero would get the win but I was wrong on Jimmy Rollins scoring the winning run as Eric Bruntlett crossed the dish instead.  

Okay, the season is over.  Now what?

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westcoast dude - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:05 AM EDT (#193636) #
The A.J. Countdown Watch! Fourteen days and the clock is ticking. Will he stay or will he go? Is the financial meltdown a deflationary millstone that burdens all teams or a hiccup on the hyperinflation highway to hell? This is the Big One--the test case that sets the tone for the humongous FA signings about to rock the universe.
brent - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 08:15 AM EDT (#193638) #
I am sure glad to see a different team (than NY or Bos) win the series. However, it was more than annoying to watch expansion teams like Florida win twice, Arizona once and then Colorado and Tampa make it to the WS.
Gerry - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 09:01 AM EDT (#193639) #

Philly were easily the better team in the WS.  In the one game they lost, Philly could have easily won with some hits with runners in scoring position.  Tampa's loss can be attributed to their number 3 and 4 hitters getting stone cold and the bullpen running out of gas.

A big congratulations to Pat Gillick for his third WS win, his record looks pretty good now as he steps back from the front office, for a while at least.

rpriske - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 09:20 AM EDT (#193640) #

"as Bartlett was going all the way on contact."

He wasn't. If he was, it would have been a closer play. No, you could see on the replay he was loping into third when Foley started waving him home at which point he put on the burners.

Amazing play by Utley... bad call by Foley.

John Northey - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 09:58 AM EDT (#193641) #
I found it funny when I heard the announcers and players mention about the long wait since their last World Series win. It was in 1980, 28 years ago. Given we now have 30 teams the average wait will now be 30 years, thus 28 is actually a 'short' wait. Scary eh?

Of course, the Phillies now have 2 titles in 126 years (11 playoff appearances) vs the Jays 2 titles in 32 years (5 playoff appearances) :)
Chuck - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 10:47 AM EDT (#193642) #

Given we now have 30 teams the average wait will now be 30 years, thus 28 is actually a 'short' wait.

Reminds me of the wonderful book Innumeracy.

 

Thomas - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 11:13 AM EDT (#193643) #
Foley took a risk when he had a couple of seconds to make a decision. It didn't pan out and maybe it was the wrong call, but I think Bartlett should get more of the blame. He clearly wasn't hustling on the play and there's no excuse for that if there's two out, especially if you're on second. What it Utley had momentarily bobbled it? If it had kicked off the heel of his glove? I have no idea why Barlett wasn't going flat out on that play. If he had the play at the plate would have been closer and things might have turned out differently.

There were two earlier incidents in the Series where a Ray didn't hustle and it cost them the extra base (Crawford had one). Upton also had a couple of publicized incidents during season. Say what you want about how the MSM fawns over players like Eckstein because of their grit and hustle, but it's hard to imagine he wouldn't have been going flat out from second to third.

Denoit - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#193644) #
Heres to the offseason, let A.J go sign Ramirez (or Ibanez), trade Adam Lind for a quality starter, and hopefully some young guys step up.
#2JBrumfield - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 12:21 PM EDT (#193646) #

I was watching the Fox feed and I don't recall seeing any replays of Bartlett stopping at third so I just assumed he was going all the way.  Then again, I was reading my latest USA Today Sports Weekly at the same time because I wanted to finish the baseball section before the game ended.   Maybe I was at the fridge going for a pop, who knows?  Oh well, I was surprised it was that close a play to be honest with you.  Utley really came up big for the Phils in the post-season, didn't he?  That double play liner he snagged against the Dodgers set the stage for Matt Stairs' heroics in Game 4.

By the way, which feed did people watch?  Fox or Sportsnet?  I preferred the Fox feed because the colours are brighter and the sound seems fuller than the Sportsnet feed.  I tried to flip back to Sportsnet to catch Zaunie's analysis.  It's too bad the Leafs and Raptors were on too last night (and they both won, no less!) but there was no way I was missing the final ball game of the year.

So, any chance in hell of Pat Gillick coming back? 

greenfrog - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 12:30 PM EDT (#193647) #
The Jays probably can't afford Ramirez (not without a significant payroll increase).

On his own, Lind won't be enough to land a decent starter. He would have to be packaged with someone like Cecil, and maybe another player. IMO now isn't the right time to trade Lind. It makes more sense to wait until he has a good season at the MLB level - which might never happen, of course, but his market value is pretty low right now anyway. And selling low is never a great idea. Especially when you're dealing with a 25-year-old whose career minor-league numbers are 318/380/509.
China fan - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:05 PM EDT (#193649) #
I agree that it doesn't make sense to trade Lind at this point.   The Jays need offence more badly than they need pitching.  I'm reasonably confident that the Jays will still have good pitching next year.  Yes, they won't have Marcum and might not have Burnett, but they'll sign a free agent and they'll benefit from at least one of the excellent young pitchers who is currently at Syracuse.  And they'll probably have Janssen and McGowan by mid-season, if not earlier.   I think they still have a wealth of pitching talent.   The main problem is still offence.   So you don't trade Lind -- he's exactly the kind of guy they have to keep.
John Northey - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:10 PM EDT (#193650) #
Lind is an interesting case. Two seasons with over 300 PA's in the majors each time.

His stats are 271/309/436 OPS+ 95 overall
2006: 367/415/600 - 159 over just 65 PA
2007: 238/278/400 - 77
2008: 282/316/439 - 99

That does not jump out at me. His most similar though age 24 is interesting...

3 years of play left, under 300 more games/700 AB's
These were the 4th outfielder's with a 70-80 OPS+
Chet Ross, Darryl Motley, Bob Chance

Between 786 and 973 games left (6-10 years, normally regulars 91-112 OPS+)
Richard Hidalgo (112 OPS+), Glenn Wilson (AS), Jeffrey Hammonds (100 OPS+, AS)

Over 1000 games 116-118 OPS+
Don Baylor (AS/MVP), Kevin McReynolds (3rd for MVP), Lee May (3 AS), Norm Siebern (3 AS)

So we have 3 flops, 3 decent guys, and 4 very solid players. 1/2 the crew had an OPS+ over 110 after their age 24 season.

However....
Of those 10 only Hammonds had an OPS+ sub 100 through his age 24 season (92) ala Lind. Motley, May and Higalgo were dead on 100, Wilson 103, Reynolds 109, Chance 110, Siebern 117, Ross 118, Baylor 120. 104 was their overall average - 271/331/429. The projection it comes up with is a career for Lind hitting 264/330/440 for a 108 OPS+. Is that enough for a LF/1B/DH?

This is the challenge for the Jays. They have a guy who should be a decent/doesn't hurt you LF/DH/1B but not a great one. I suspect a Hammonds type career is likely. Namely, a few very solid years but more of a 4th outfielder/platoon guy than an everyday regular.

Hold him for 2 years and you might get a great season (he is in his prime years now - 25 to 30) before he gets expensive and then trade him before his costs climb too far but he still holds value. However, with Snider in the wings and the potential to sign a slugger... hmmm... this is a time where JP will have to earn his money with some tough calls. Especially with the collapse in the dollar potentially costing the Jays somewhere around $10 million.
Glevin - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:11 PM EDT (#193651) #
"He clearly wasn't hustling on the play and there's no excuse for that if there's two out, especially if you're on second."

I hate the whole hustle thing. The worst was when the Fox announcers got on Baldelli for not going full out on a pop out. "He should be at second right now, no excuse". The reality is however, that you can't and shouldn't hustle on every play. If you hit a routine infield pop up, let's say 1 every 3 years drops. (Probably less frequent). The odds of getting hurt because of running full out are vastly greater than the potential benefits. That's not to say you should just relax all the time, but hustling on every play, diving for foul balls recklessly, in games that are out of hand etc...are actually not good plays in terms of risk versus reward. I don't blame Bartlett because even if he were hustling, he would have been out. You just cannot expect someone to score on an infield hit from second, especially when it's a guy is not a blazer.
whiterasta80 - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#193653) #
Congrats to the Phils.  After what we put them through 15 years ago I wouldn't begrudge them a WS win now. Tampa should probably get another crack at the playoffs barring any firesales so I think I can say I'm content with what went down.
zeppelinkm - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:23 PM EDT (#193654) #

I agree with the premise of your statement Glevin, but Bartlett should have been running full out on that particular play, no excuses.

What he would have seen from 2B is a ball hit towards the middle - no guarentee it was getting through but certainly no guarentee Utley would run that ball down and field it either. At that point he should start charging hard incase the ball gets through to the outfield and he gets sent home.  It's easy - it's late in a very close game which also happens to be the most important game Tampa Bay had ever been in, he's on 2B and there is a ball hit that could potentially score him, and he saunter's over to 3B? Inexcusable!

SK in NJ - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#193655) #

Mike Jacobs has been traded to the Royals for Leo Nunez. The Jays equivalent to that deal probably would have been Brandon League, but maybe JP wants to keep that area strong with the expected decline in the rotation.

I'm guessing Giambi or Ibanez will be the main targets for the DH spot.

Thomas - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#193656) #
That's not to say you should just relax all the time, but hustling on every play, diving for foul balls recklessly, in games that are out of hand etc...are actually not good plays in terms of risk versus reward.

Perhaps, perhaps not. I waver on this point and think reasonably arguments can be made for either side (in regards to hustling, not diving for foul falls recklessly or jumping into the stands).

But zepplin is right. This is the fifth game of the World Series. There are all sort of things that could happen from it hitting the heel of Utley's glove to Utley bouncing a throw to Howard, who is a terrible defensive first baseman. We're not talking about a 10-2 game against the Royals in May. This is the fifth game of the World Series and your team is losing by one run with two out in the inning. Running at 75% is inexcusable.

IMO, Baldelli should have been running hard there, as well. But, Bartlett not going full out is completely inexcusable. If he's hustling maybe he's still out, but maybe Utley hurries his throw and bounces it more. Maybe Ruiz takes his eye off the ball to look at Bartlett trying to avoid him and doesn't handle the hop cleanly. You can't take anything for granted and that's what Bartlett did.
Thomas - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#193657) #
Mike Jacobs has been traded to the Royals for Leo Nunez. The Jays equivalent to that deal probably would have been Brandon League, but maybe JP wants to keep that area strong with the expected decline in the rotation.

Good. As Mike Green explained earlier, acquiring Mike Jacobs at any cost would have been a mistake.

If I was JP I'd give Dayton Moore a telephone call and see who they are trying to deal from their new 1B/DH logjam. He's reportedly soured on Billy Butler and if the Jays could acquire Butler for pennies on the dollar, that's a move I'd strongly endorse and the team could figure out their own 1B/DH/OF situation later. Butler's a born DH, but he can hit and he's only 22. I can't imagine they would trade him cheaply, but it can't hurt to send out some feelers.
dan gordon - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#193658) #
In another move today, Detroit has declined the option on Renteria.  He becomes a free agent.
Mick Doherty - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 02:18 PM EDT (#193660) #

On a personal note, I guess I won my own Game 5 contest by coming the closest. 

What award will you be presenting to yourself? Will there be a ceremony in which you shake your own hand?

greenfrog - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 02:28 PM EDT (#193661) #
"this is a time where JP will have to earn his money with some tough calls."

If there is one thing the last two years have made clear for the Jays, it's that roster depth is crucial. Even if the Jays sign a player like Ibanez, it doesn't mean that Lind has to be traded. The team could start out with an OF of Snider/Wells/Rios and Ibanez (or equivalent veteran slugger) at DH, but it would be nice to have a competent fourth OF/1B/DH. The Jays might have stayed in contention in '08 but for the slosh at LF/DH: Thomas, Stewart, Mench and Wilkerson (even Stairs had a mediocre year, but I can't bring myself to include him in the slosh category).
#2JBrumfield - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#193662) #

What award will you be presenting to yourself? Will there be a ceremony in which you shake your own hand?

With the ongoing financial crisis, the cabal told me there's not enough in the Batter's Box budget to give me what I want -   two plane tickets for Dunedin for spring training and season tickets for the 2009 season.

As for a ceremony, I'd like everyone to lift me on their shoulders and have the Tom Cheek call "Touch 'em all Joe" playing in the background.  A ticker tape parade at the Rogers Centre would be good, too.  I could tell someone's mayor to kiss my butt.  Have Dave Winfield unveil my banner.  I think that's reasonable and shouldn't inflate my ego.....much!

Mike Green - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 02:42 PM EDT (#193663) #
Have Dave Winfield unveil my banner

As long as you don't have to dress as a seagull for Halloween, you should be OK.
Glevin - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 02:43 PM EDT (#193664) #
"There are all sort of things that could happen from it hitting the heel of Utley's glove to Utley bouncing a throw to Howard, who is a terrible defensive first baseman. We're not talking about a 10-2 game against the Royals in May. This is the fifth game of the World Series and your team is losing by one run with two out in the inning. Running at 75% is inexcusable."

First of all, I am not sure where this "Bartlett wasn't hustling" stuff is even coming from...

A quote from Bartlett

""I was just running hard, and Foley sent me and I tried to score," Bartlett said. "It's a hard baseball play. If I'm not hustling, maybe he stops me. But that's how you should play -- hustle all the time.""

and from the 3B coach-Foley said that Bartlett always races hard to third base, and with two outs...

I just don't think there's any way Bartlett gets near home plate without hustling. It was a grounder up the middle, not bobbled at all. I time the entire play at maybe around 5 seconds. If he's going at 75%, he's still at 3B. Maybe someone has good video of him jogging, but I don't see it.

zeppelinkm - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 02:50 PM EDT (#193665) #

They showed the replay multiple times and it certainly appeared he was slowing down heading into 3B, and then was like "what? i'm being sent home?!?!". 

Glevin - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 04:06 PM EDT (#193668) #
"They showed the replay multiple times and it certainly appeared he was slowing down heading into 3B, and then was like "what? i'm being sent home?!?!". "

Well, did it show the 3rd base coach? I can see the coach hesitating which means that Bartlett was going to stop, and then waving him home. The slow down could not have been more than half a second. Any way I look at it, I can't see this as a player being lazy.
Thomas - Thursday, October 30 2008 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#193669) #
Bartlett certainly looks like he pushes himself into another gear just after he rounds the third base bag. Contrast that with the speed with which he approached the bag and he certainly looks like he slows down, assuming he will just round the bag and look at the play, and then realizes that Foley is sending him home. This angle was shown on the TV at least twice, although Sutcliffe and O'Brien didn't mention his hustle.
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