http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/12/23/miller_next_to_pitch_in/
"while also picking through offers for both of their first basemen, Kevin Millar and Doug Mientkiewicz, one of whom almost certainly will be traded."

From the Boston Globe, COMN.

Any takers?

You'd have to include Mel Rojas in with the Alou clan. I believe he is Felipe's nephew.

As for favourite baseball family, well, the '79 Pirates come to mind. They were, after all, family...

Are only blood relatives eligible. What about relatives through marriage?

And if so, are Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich officially related? :)

And if so, are Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich officially related? :)

Peterson/Kekich (Sex) and "We are Family" Pirates (Drugs). Jack McDowell didn't have a ballplayer brother, did he? Ian Dury lives!

How many Boones were there in baseball? Ray, Bob, Bret, Aaron. Anybody else?

I can't think of a quintet, but the three-generation Bells are tied with the Boones -- grandpa Gus, Buddy and David, whose brother Mike had a brief career.

Marriage, even without wife-swapping, can complicate the relationships. For example, Jayson Werth's dad Dennis played, and married Dick Schofield's daughter. Counting both Duckys, that's four I know of.

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of Too Many Molinas!

Thank you, Coach, for that needed morning laugh. Too Many Molinas! Good stuff.

Maybe I'm wrong here ... but wasn't there another Boone other than Bret and Aaron? I seem to recall a third one going to USC and getting drafted, but my memory gets worse every second. (What did I just say?)

I believe it's the Hairstons. I think - four major leaguers and one minor leaguer. If we give Rojas to the Alous it's a tie (so far).

Too Many Molinas! Good stuff.

Gitz, all the credit for our favourite imaginary sitcom should go to Jobu. I was just trying to set him up for an open shot, not that he needs much encouragement. :)

Matt Boone (I think) never made the majors. but was with the Rangers organization. Or was that Matt Bell? (You can see why I'd be confused.)

I believe the Delahantys had six in the big leagues, yes?

Jose Rijo and Juan Marichal (son in law/Father in law) might have been the best pitching duo, apologies to the Deans. The best family, well how can you argue with -- and this feels silly just to write it -- a thousand home runes>? Bobby and Barry. I don't think Bobby Jr. ever made the show, did he?

The Alou's are MUCH bigger than you mention, because as the Rojas and SEVERAL others are connected, quite directly...

Bigger even than the Sutters of hockey...

The Ripkens had 3 on the same team (one a coach), more or less the "Howe's" of baseball... and I think two Molina's both catching is pretty cool....

3-Alomar's but not together... The McRae's playing(coaching) together.... The Ken Griffeys both on the field together.. is pretty cool... and the DiMaggio's..

none of those are very BIG families though, just interesting...
I think you'll have a hard time beating the Alou's once you find them all...

How about a Blue Jay connection, The Stottlemyres. I don't know if there was more then Mel Jr & Sr. and Todd but to get the Jays in there.

Not to cheat here, but when I was researching the All Fathers & Sons Baseball Hall of Names team here on Da Box, I used this Baseball Almanac Family Tree Menu. Fascinating stuff.

Thanks to "My Name's Not Ryan" in that earlier Father's Day thread, here's the all-Jays family team:

C..Darren Fletcher
1. Dsvid Segui
2, Roberto Alomar
3. Ed Sprague
ss. Dick Schofield
of. Brian McRae
Jayson Werth
Joe Cruz Jr.
SP Todd Stottlemyre
BP Joe Coleman
Pedro Borbon
Randy St Clair
Justin Speier
Bench Ozzie Virgil
Charlie Beamon
Dads who can fit in
Mike Darr
Jeff Burroughs
Dave McKay
Steve Grilli
Coaches
Maury Wills (spring, and snuck into dugout on occasion)
Bobby Mattick
Gary Matthews
Mel Queen

Leads to my all time favorite trivia, but also links a large (ok at least 3) player connection to the Jays...Who is the only SECOND generation Blue Jay.

Are you looking for... Joey McLaughlin Jr.?

Shouldn't somebody be making the obligatory reference to Boog, the lesser known Alou?

Chuck, are you watching ESPNews right now? One of the commentators just made that exact same pun.

Doesn't Melvin Mora have quintuplets? I wonder if they'll all make the bigs...

I would like to see an all-Mora infield one day.

Here's a neat piece of Alou family trivia. In 1966, Matty Alou, batting leadoff for the Pittsburgh Pirates, was the first hitter to come to the plate in the history of Atlanta's Fulton County stadium, while Felipe Alou, batting leadoff for the Braves, became the first Brave to come to the plate in the bottom of the first inning. Thirty years later in 1996, the Expos' Moises Alou was the last hitter to come to the plate, flying out to end the final regular season game played at Fulton County stadium. And just for good measure, Felipe Alou, Moises' dad and manager, became the last manager to lose a regular season game in Fulton County stadium !

Chuck, are you watching ESPNews right now? One of the commentators just made that exact same pun.

No, I'm in Canada (and sans dish). I've just heard it a million times.

On the topic of ESPN, I was in Florida earlier this month and "got to" watch ESPN. What a frustrating lot! Buster Olney is even more annoying in person than in print.

"while also picking through offers for both of their first basemen, Kevin Millar and Doug Mientkiewicz, one of whom almost certainly will be traded."

Anyone know how much Mientkiewicz makes, if the jays could get him he'd be a much better FB than Hinske .238/.326/.350
The numbers arent great but he only made 2.6 million last year so he can be a reliable option.
He's got good speed for a FB, walks almost as much as he strikes out 48BB -56K

Here are some other contenders for the largest baseball extended family: the Hairstons, the Bells and the Walkers. Richard Dawson, are you available to ask the questions? :)

I'd rather have Millar, personally.

Crozier can be our defensive relacement at 1B, if that's ever necessary.

Actually, I'd rather just give the job to Crozier. Meh, got nothing to lose. Even if he does break the ML record for strikeouts.

One thing about the Alou's ive already commented in this site is that their family name is Rojas. But inmigration made a mistake with Felipe, giving his mother name as first one. The fact is that Moises is no Alou at all.
Felipe was the first Dominican to play regularly in the bigs ( what a door he did open )
There are 17 families that have given three or more brothers:
Delahanty ( five ) and O'Neil ( four ) are leaders. But no family has had three brothers batting one-two-three ever. They did twicw for the Giants ( and tougher to beat: in order, from the the younger to the older )

No, Mclaughlin Jr. wouldnt qualify any more than Isaac Iorg, I am looking for an actual second generation playing in Toronto.

Why, I think you're thinking of Mr. Speier.

Negatory, Chris Speier never played for the Jays.

Ladies and gentlemen we have somewhat disturbing news that occured yesterday in Tarpon Springs, Fl, the 3rd Blue Jays in less than 3 months has died. Doug Ault according to reports has committed suicide either late last night or early this morning. It seems things do happen in 3's Cerruti, Mattick and Ault.

Ault was my favorite original Jay.

Can you give a source for this, please (I can't find it on the wire or in Google News with search) so I can start an appropriate thread?

Shouldn't somebody be making the obligatory reference to Boog, the lesser known Alou?

They also had a Cuban cousin named Bob.

the all-Jays family team

Olerud's dad was a minor-league ballplayer who was mentioned in Ball Four.

Jose Rijo and Juan Marichal (son in law/Father in law) might have been the best pitching duo, apologies to the Deans.

They aren't better than the Perrys.

Who is the only SECOND generation Blue Jay.

I should know this.

The answer to the second generation Trivia question.......... can be found at SS generation One, and............. of for generation two....

They aren't better than the Perrys.

Or, come to think of it, the Niekros. Though of the eight pitchers mentioned, Marichal was the best and Rijo at his peak was better than everyone else at their peak, except Marichal, G. Perry and D. Dean.

Terrible news about Mr. Ault.

Has anybody found a source on this yet?

The answer to the second generation Trivia question.......... can be found at SS generation One, and............. of for generation two....

Are we talking about Dick Schofield and his nephew Jayson Werth?

Yes, Schofield and Werth....in all ranges of definitions are a first a second generation, not father and son.

As for Ault, I searched for more news this morning, even calling up the Tarpon Springs news...if its true post a link, if its false, thats pretty tacky.

Nothing in the Star, the Sun, the Globe, ESPN or Google News about Doug Ault passing away. In the absence of a link or any supporting evidence, I'm going to assume this this is a hoax. "Wilson," in the unlikely event you want to post here again, e-mail me and explain why I should reinstate your posting privileges. I'll try to look at it over the holidays. Maybe.

Thats a pretty bad hoax >:(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Ault
COMN. In this page says: "Douglas Reagan Ault (born March 9, 1950-December 22, 2004)"

It's shocking that news item would be reflected in Wikipedia, which gratned is updated daily, before it appears in any news source anywhere we would expect to find it.

Good work finding the link. But like any journalist would tell you -- and in this case, this is news we don't want to get wrong -- you need two independently verifiable sources and even the places Wikipedia links to don't have this information (BBRef, etc.)

More to the point, we certainly won't feature anything speculative about suicide or any other cause of death without confirmation.

Thanks for the first step, though.

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/news_story.asp?id=109131
Haven't found anything on Ault, but Johnny Oates passed away today. COMN

Sorry, posted this in the wrong thread; I see it's already been mentioned.

I can verify that Doug Ault did indeed die. His son was at our home last night and he had just received the news that his father had died. I cannot find any news source, but it is true.

Thank you, James. As a personal friend of the Ault family, I'm sure you can appreciate that we're not going to splash this news on our front page without independent verfication from a credible public news source. Blogs are all about the links to other information and the editprial commentary that follows; I think without exception, we've never "broken" a news story on Batter's Box nor would we wish to start now. IAs I recall, one of our roster members heard about Cerutti from a credible off-the-record source before it hit the wire but we held that thread until it was public and this situation at the very least merits that.

Please pass along our sympathies to the younger Ault lad and if you find (or hear about so we can locate) a public news source, please pass it along.

I applaud the Baux leaders for not going forward with this, 3 days after the supposed event, nothing has been made public. Color me still skeptical, I really hope someone hasn't sunken so low, to make up such a thing. but also hope such a thing has not really happened to the Ault family.

Sun reporting it today, but still kudos to the Baux for holding back.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/Sports/2004/12/26/797239-sun.html
The Sun link.. awful news.

An appropriate thread, as promised, is now posted.

Yes, my condolences to the Ault family, and thanks for the 1977 memories ...

Re the all-Jays family team:
Lets not forget Rob and Rich Butler in the outfield. As for the size of the family, did Butlerville Newfoundland ever have a team?

Our family would like to extend our appreciation to those who have sent there expressions of sympathy. Due to the sensitive nature of my brother, Doug' Ault's death we would ask that references to the cirumstances be dealt with in a sensitive and appropriate manner.

Below is the official obitituary which will appear in the Beaumont, Texas Enterprise

Douglas Reagan Ault, 54, formerly of Beaumont, passed away on December 22, 2004 in Tarpon Springs, FL. Funeral services are at Forest Lawn's Chapel on December 30, 2004 at 3:00 PM with internment to follow at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. Visitation will be held at Forest Lawn Memorial Chapel on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 from 6-8 PM. Officiating at the service is Rev. Leora Wagliardo of Cathedral in the Pines Christian Center were Doug was a member in its original beginnings as First Assembly of God. Born and educated in the Beaumont school system, Doug graduated from French High School Class of 1968 where he excelled as an award winning baseball player. Ault became a varsity baseball star at Texas Tech University and was subsequently signed by the Texas Rangers in 1976 as an amateur free agent. In 1977 he joined the new Toronto Blue Jays franchise through the expansion draft. In Toronto’s first opening game, Ault earned a spot in baseball history hitting two homeruns, including one in the first inning, and at the time, tieing a major league record for the most home runs in an Opening Day game. Doug is survived by his wife, Lynn Ault of Tarpon Springs, FL along with his mother Florence Genevieve Fenner of Beaumont, TX. Also surviving are his son Joshua Ault of Houston, TX, daughter Cydney Ault of Michigan, step-son Austin Davidson and step-daughter Ryan Davidson, both of Tarpon Springs, FL and brothers Daniel Ault of Glen Allen, VA and David Ault of Los Angeles, CA. Other next of kin include nephew Todd Methvin of Beaumont and nieces Tanya Methvin and Tracey Shuck of Dallas plus many great nieces and nephews. Pallbearers are Herman Marquardt, Tommy Fenner, Bobby Fenner, Rex Reavis, Derrill Methvin, & Larry Gargus. Honorary pallbearers are James Pressler, Bob Dietz, Al Pressler, Colby Wahl, and Austin Davidson.

"There is nothing that I can give you which you have not.
But there is much that while I cannot give, you can take.

No Heaven can come to us unless our hearts find rest in it today.
Take Heaven.

No peace lies in us today that is not hidden in this present instant.
Take peace.

The gloom of the world is but a shadow. Behind it, yet within our reach, is joy. Take joy.

And now, forever, our prayer for you is as the day breaks, the shadows flee away."

Forest Lawn Memorial Park
4955 Pine Street
Beaumont, Texas 77708

The Hairstons do have five. The second Grandson debuted this season.

Jayson Werth's dad Dennis played, and married Dick Schofield's daughter.

kind of depends on if we're only counting blood relatives, then ... Dennis was Jayson's stepfather.

Brings to mind the famous case of Glenn and Storm Davis ... grew up in the same household, may have been foster brothers, but Glenn was not related by blood to that Davis family, just happened to share the same name.