Rule alteration suggestions are welcome.

Just add a category for number of trades, and impose a penalty for incorrect guesses in all categories. That should allow you to win with a guess of zero trades.

With Mauer likely headed to the DL again with knee problems I would like to see the Jays trade Batista, Zaun and Phelps to the Twins for Justin Morneau, Jesse Crain (or Francisco Liriano) and Scott Baker.

Good call, Four Seamer.

So, total number of trades correct: +5
Each correct Jay traded: +2
Each correct player traded to the Jays: +2
Each correct team traded with: +2
Each incorrect trade: -1

Does that sound fair?

Good call on the negative points for incorrect trades. Otherwise you could just predict everyone being traded and probably get some points.

I predict 2 trades involving 2 major league players:

Trade 1:
Greg Zaun to the CWS for a minor leaguer

Trade 2:
Terry Adams and a minor leaguer to Oakland for 2 minor leaguers

When's the deadline?

Before the trade is made? ;)

Dunno, when should it be? End of the week would be too long from now -- isn't the trading deadline less than two weeks away?

How does Thursday sound?

Justin Speier to Oakland for a minor leaguer.

Only trade.

1. Adams to Boston.

2. Zaun to the Marlins.

With Mauer likely headed to the DL again with knee problems I would like to see the Jays trade Batista, Zaun and Phelps to the Twins for Justin Morneau, Jesse Crain (or Francisco Liriano) and Scott Baker.

That would be so, so, sweet...

jc

With Mauer likely headed to the DL again with knee problems I would like to see the Jays trade Batista, Zaun and Phelps to the Twins for Justin Morneau, Jesse Crain (or Francisco Liriano) and Scott Baker.

I'd like a magic unicorn that craps M&Ms.

I'd like a magic unicorn that craps M&Ms

Way to punish someone for a little lateral thinking Moffatt.

While possibility of the the Twins parting with both Crain and Morneau is remote, injuries to key players like Mauer can cause contending teams to panic and do stupid things.

I'd like a magic unicorn that craps M&Ms.

Ah, the candy that melts in your mouth, not in your @ss.

If Batista keeps pitching like he has lately, and with the lack of pitching on the trade market, someone might get desperate and knock the Jays' socks off. The Pirates want an unreasonable amount for Benson and he isn't nearly as solid as Batista, so it appears to be a seller's market.

Way to punish someone for a little lateral thinking Moffatt.

Well, in that case, when we're done that trade, why don't we send Dave Berg to Anaheim and get Kotchman in return.

Remember how the Jays pried Jose Cruz from the Mariners for Davey and Spoljaric? A week before they had laughed in Ash's face at the request. He was considered all but unattainable.

Okay, in the interests of declaring a winner, who is betting on the Magic Unicorn? Moffatt?

Remember how the Jays pried Jose Cruz from the Mariners for Davey and Spoljaric?

I don't remember that one. I remember when they traded Spoljaric and Timlin for Cruz, though ;)

If Batista keeps pitching like he has lately, and with the lack of pitching on the trade market, someone might get desperate and knock the Jays' socks off.

Okay, let's examine your proposal under a little more scrutiny. It's really two trades:

1. Batista for Morneau
2. Zaun and Phelps for Jesse Crain and Scott Baker

Number one is a pretty big stretch. Arguably the best power hitting prospect in baseball for a 2/3 starter. But you're right, teams do get desperate. It's incredibly unlikely to happen, but I suppose not impossible.

Now look at trade 2. A waiver-wire catcher and a 1B/DH guy they don't need in return for two of the best pitching prospects in their system. Why on earth would they want this deal?

OK, Moffatt, since I am way off base whom do you think would be a reasonable return for Batista, should the Jays be inclined to trade him?

Batista isn't going anywhere.

The M's got Timlin & Spoljaric in that deal, but good point... its fun to speculate on trades but I do think the ones where some poor fool team gives us way too much aren't as fun to speculate on.
I don't think Batista will get traded, its bad GM karma to sign a guy to a 3 year deal and trade him after six months. Moves like that hurt a GM's reputation with players, fairly or not.

Hey, Moffatt, you can't pick the same as me. Get your own bet.

Phelps (who still has a big power upside, despite what the Jays think) and a .300 catcher with more than solid receiving/throwing skills... keeping in mind Mauer would have to be out for an extended period (which is possible, he is on the way to see the doctor). Crain is a little over-rated in many parts, which is why he hasn't wrangled a full-time gig yet (remember Nakamura had some outstanding minor numbers in that system too). Drop him, then. Baker and Morneau, is that more reasonable? Two top prospects for a No. 2 starter, a DH/1B (who would basically take over one of the spots next year instead of Morneau) with 20-30 homer potential and a .300 solid switch-hitting catcher.

OK, he's not getting traded but all I want to know is what kind of talent you think he could get in return for his services... Use Jays' prospects if you want just for easy reference.

Hey, Moffatt, you can't pick the same as me. Get your own bet.

I don't think the Jays are going to make any trades, but what the heck, I'm making fun of other people's predictions, so I guess I should give them something to work with.

Here goes:

Reed Johnson to Oakland for John Baker.

Moffatt. You're wrong on several counts. First of all, I want Dallas McPherson for Dave Berg, and I won't accept anything less from the Angels. Second of all, I'd like Grant Balfour instead of Baker, but I guess Balfour's not really in their system anymore, so I'll let you off there.

RE: Batista. He could get a high prospect, but I'd think more in the 11-20 range, rather than a top 3 guy like Morneau. A Rios or Quiroz type guy.. maybe a bit higher.

The above is also with the caveat that I'm not as high on Rios as the average Bauxite. His progress will be determined by his ability to add upper-body muscle mass.

Catalanotto to the Marlins for Abraham Nunez.

Fair enough. I think you're under-estimating what Batista is worth on a seller's market, but you think I am over-estimating. This is a perfect example why many trades don't get done... GM's rarely agree either.

1. Zaun to the Marlins for the infamous PTBNL

2. Josh Phelps to the Mariners for Gil Meche

3. The Jays sign The Cat to a deal for next year and promptly tell Carlos that Frank will be the everyday first basemen and Carlos will have to DH for the rest of the year. Delgado then agrees to waive his no trade clause and gets moved to the Dodgers for James Loney.

I suppose that's true. While I do think Morneau for Batista is a pretty big stretch, it was mainly the other part of the trade I think is incredibly lopsided.

Or to put it differently, would you even consider making that deal if you were the Twins?

Catalanotto to the Marlins for Abraham Nunez

I always forget that there's two players named Abe Nunez. I was wondering how the Marlins were going to get Cat in exchange for a guy in the Pirates system. :)

Catalanotto to the Marlins for Abraham Nunez.

Will anyone take an injured player? Cat needs surgery at the end of the season and is only able to play at 70 per cent and likely DH.

Josh Phelps to the Mariners for Gil Meche

If I'm the Mariners, I do that trade in a heartbeat then go out for Thai food to celebrate. :)

I pick: 2 deals

Adams to the Mets.

Speier & Zaun to the White Sox.

Who does Toronto get? Nobody that will play this year (except maybe as September call-ups.)

My only guess:

Frank Catalanotto to San Francisco for a good minor leaguer, or two lesser players.

I'd love to see the Jays get Meche... I like his stuff for the closer's role or setup.

I'd also love to see the Jays get Loney for Delgado... That kid's bat was smoking in Spring Training and he's only what 21?

Moffatt: I like Baker a lot so I wouldn't necessarily trade him (which is why I'd covet him), but I would trade Crain and Liriano or Bonser or Durbin (if healthy) for Phelps and Zaun.

Zaun to the Marlins

Cat to the Cardinals

Batista and Dominic Rich to the Twins for Morneau

Adams to the A's

Speir to the cubs

Marc: I really like Baker too, hence the lopsidedness of the trade.

A good rule of thumb when suggesting trades is that any suggestion you make you'd at least consider (thought not necessarily make) if you were in the other guy's shoes.

Frank Catalanotto to San Francisco for a good minor leaguer,

I don't think SF has any good minor leaguers.
:)

Toronto makes two trades, one to Minnasota and one to Oakland (in that order)

Phelps gets sent to Minnie, along with Speier for two propects, one of whom stays in Toronto and one of whom goes to Oakland, along with Rios, in exchange for Harden.

Unlikely, but there's no point in guessing the mundane.

Well, JP can find someone there he likes, I'm sure.
San Fran needs some offense and a lefty bat, so Cat could fit in there. What have I got to lose, one point? :)

Is NFH around anywhere keeping track of the picks?

Just an idle question: how many of you posters who either believe or fervently hope that the Jays are going to get Morneau from the Twins are keeping the dream alive because he's Canadian?

In other words, would we ever be mentioning his name if he was from Mobile, Alabama?

In other words, would we ever be mentioning his name if he was from Mobile, Alabama?

He'd be even more difficult to acquire if he were stuck there with the Memphis blues again.

I thought the thread was keeping track of the picks. ;)

It doesn't matter anyways, since both Moffatt and I know there won't be any trades.

I don't think there will be, but I've made a career out of being wrong. There will probably be one or two minor ones, which none of us predict.

I think the interest in Morneau stems from two things:

1. The need (most likely) that this team will have for a first baseman

2. The lack of available first base prospects in our system who are major league ready

3. The fact that he's one of the top rated prospects overall

The fact that he's canadian doesn't change the fact that he's a top prospect who fills what will soon be an immediate need.

Here's the picks so far. Some of you didn't say who the Jays would get in return, so I just assumed they'd get a "prospect". If you like anything you'd see changed, let me know:

TRADED			TO	RETURN			GUESSER
Adams,T	PROSP'T		A'S	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		Paul D
Adams,T			REDSOX	PROSP'T			Jacko
Adams,T			METS	PROSP'T			Rusty
Adams,T			A'S	PROSP'T			Noah
Batista	Phelps	Zaun	TWINS	Morneau	Crain	Baker	Marc
Batista	Rich		TWINS	Morneau			Noah
Cat			MARLINS	Nunez,A			Chris B
Cat			GIANTS	PROSP'T			Rob
Cat			CARDS	PROSP'T			Noah
Delgado			DODGERS	Loney			Kristian
Johnson			A'S	Baker,J			Moffatt
Phelps			M'S	Meche			Kristian
Phelps	Speier		TWINS	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		AndrewS
Rios	PROSP'T		A'S	Harden			AndrewS
Speier			A'S	PROSP'T			Thomas
Speier	Zaun		CHISOX	PROSP'T			Rusty
Speier			CUBS	PROSP'T			Noah
Zaun			CHISOX	PROSP'T			Paul D
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Jacko
Zaun			MARLINS	PTBNL			Kristian
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Noah

Noah,

I agree with each and every one of your points. But the number of posts longing for Morneau on this site is almost inversely proportionate to the indications emanating from Minnesota that he is available in trade talks, of which there have been none. There are lots of speculative arguments as to why Minnesota might be open to moving him (they're burying him in Triple AAA, Ryan might get desperate, etc) but not one of them, as far as I can tell, is grounded in anything substantive coming from the Twins' camp.

So I'm merely wondering if this wishful thinking is being prodded along by the fact that he has a Canadian passport. I just have a hard time believing that would be talking so much about him if he didn't, but I've been wrong before, and will be again.

So I'm merely wondering if this wishful thinking is being prodded along by the fact that he has a Canadian passport. I just have a hard time believing that would be talking so much about him if he didn't, but I've been wrong before, and will be again.

I think you're right. If Kotchman was the Canadian and Morneau was from the States, I think we'd hear a lot more rumours about the former than the latter.

I think its pretty hard to bet on who we'd get in exchange... but maybe easier to have a shopping list of talent etc...

for instance, I think the Cat will be traded in exchange for 2 prospects, one ML ready as a Sept callup this year, and one for next year... maybe a 1B... LF.

Personally I like Morneau not because he's Canadian but he seems more attainable than Kotchman because the Twins haven't exactly acted like they consider him a big part of their future by keeping him buried in Rochester. And in the long term, Morneau projects to hit for more power and could hit for average like Kotchman. I see Kotchman more like a Mark Grace or Will Clark (not that that is a bad thing AT ALL).

Well, if it were easy, it wouldn't be much of a contest. :)

Catalanotto to the Marlins for two Dominic Rich-Like prospects.

Batista to the Twins for Jesse Crain and Michael Restovich.

Terry Adams to The Cubbies for everyones favorite.. PTBNL or cash.

I still don't see how Cat is going to pull in anything given that he's going to play the rest of the season with a tear in his abdomen...

I think the fact that Morneau is Canadian is definitely a factor in the interest, though it is not the overwhelming factor. Its the fact that he is Canadian, and he's a top prospect that is really attractive as there is the chance that he could be like Larry Walker or Eric Gagne. Albeit these are very lofty goals, but the possibility is exciting. Not only does it work on a baseball level but also on public relations level. If he turned out to be very good, and he did it on the Jays, that could have a significant impact on fanbase. As it is, Simon Pond got one of the loudest cheers on opening day.

He is also one of bigger name minor leaguers (especially in Canada), and this is also a big factor. Could explain why the continued interest in him, as opposed to say, James Loney for example who is not as familiar to the more casual baseball fan.

I'm not saying I only want Canadians, just he would be an interesting pickup, however unlikely that may be.

Reed Johnson to the Cardinals for John Gall...

Ted Lilly to the Yankees for Robinson Cano.

I predict the following:

1) Batista will not be traded
2) Lilly will not be traded
3) Phelps will not be traded
4) Hinske will not be traded

Ted Lilly to the Yankees for Robinson Cano

Heh heh. How about Lilly, Griffin, and Jason Arnold to the Dodgers for Jeff Weaver? :)

1) Justin Speier to Oakland for minor leaguer
2) Greg Zaun to Florida for minor leaguer
3) Catalanotto to St. Louis for minor leaguer

None of the returns will be anything signficant.

adams to the nl central for a minor leaguer or two.

batista, lilly, hinkse, etc., etc. - not traded.

delgado - not traded since he wont waive the clause. If he does, perhaps to the dodgers for a couple prospects (no-one super, but respectable)

Zaun to Marlins for prospect
Adams to Mets for low level prospect
Speir and Gomez and Rich to A's for Sarloos & low level prospect
Catalanotto to Red Sox for prospect
Batista to Rangers for Gonzaez and Benoit
Delgado to Dodgers for Hanrahan & Encarnacion

Zaun would be a good fit for NY (AL). It would also be a place to dump some money if JP felt like he needed to.

I’ll throw out Zaun to the Yankees for Brad Halsey or Alex Graman.

Someone earlier compared Crain to Nakamura. Not so fast my friend, Crain is electric and could step into the bullpen this August/September and make an impact.

I highly doubt they will move Batista, with the uncertainty surrounding Halladay. Someone has to be around to lead the staff in 2005. If Halladay is a question mark then Batista has even more value to the Jays.

So.. who else has any value in a deal (that they would realistically consider moving):
Adams perhaps, Speier maybe, Delgado if he were to waive and maybe something could be had for Gomez. F Cat might fetch something if he were healthy…..

This season has been so bad even the trade deadline is boring…

With all the discussion of trading Batista, I'm surprised only Mick has brought up the possibility of trading Ted Lilly.

To me Lilly seems like a much better target for a trade. Unlike Batista, he wasn't signed as a free agent, and only has 1 year left on his contract rather than 2.

He probably doesn't have quite the appeal of a Batista, but if the market for pitching is anything close to what Marc describes, then you have to figure the Jays could get quite a bit for him. They could then sign a decent 2/3 guy in the off-season, particularly since they wouldn't be on the books for Lilly's 3.1 million next year.

Zaun would be a good fit for NY (AL). It would also be a place to dump some money if JP felt like he needed to. I'll throw out Zaun to the Yankees for Brad Halsey or Alex Graman.

One of the Yankees top two pitching prospects (from an admittedly depleted farm system) for a third-string catcher? Gratned, Zaun is outplaying Flaherty right now, and has had a slightly better career, and is three years younger ... but add all that up, and it's not going to get Halsey or Graman.

The Yankees have been known to overpay on occasion, and they don't seem like they are in love with Halsey or Graman (especially Graman). The only players they seem to value in their system are Navarro, Cano and the OF they just moved to the FSL who name escapes me....

The Yankees have made a few mistakes this season. They have rode Posada into the ground. He has really been brutal for a while now, and it's hard to see someone with his mileage bounce back in a second half. They also have overused Gordon and Rivera in my opinion. Won't keep them from the playoffs, but that is two big advantages they could have (C and back end of the pen) that they might equalize some with the way they utilized them this season.

I avoided talking about Lilly because I really like him and want him to stay.....

The updated pick list:

TRADED			TO	RETURN			GUESSER
Adams,T	PROSP'T		A'S	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		Paul D
Adams,T			A'S	PROSP'T			Noah
Adams,T			CUBS	PTBNL	or$$$		ForbesM
Adams,T			METS	PROSP'T			Rusty
Adams,T			METS	PROSP'T			Peter
Adams,T			REDSOX	PROSP'T			Jacko
Batista			RANGERS	Gonz,A	Benoit		Peter
Batista			TWINS	Crain	Res'vch		ForbesM
Batista	Phelps	Zaun	TWINS	Morneau	Crain	Baker	Marc
Batista	Rich		TWINS	Morneau			Noah
Cat			CARDS	PROSP'T			Noah
Cat			CARDS	PROSP'T			SKinNJ
Cat			GIANTS	PROSP'T			Rob
Cat			MARLINS	Nunez,A			Chris B
Cat			MARLINS	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		ForbesM
Cat			REDSOX	PROSP'T			Peter
Delgado			DODGERS	Han'han	Encarn'		Peter
Delgado			DODGERS	Loney			Kristian
Johnson			A'S	Baker,J			Moffatt
Johnson			CARDS	Gall,J			Nic'las
Lilly			YANKEES	Cano			Mick
Phelps			M'S	Meche			Kristian
Phelps	Speier		TWINS	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		AndrewS
Rios	PROSP'T		A'S	Harden			AndrewS
Speier			A'S	PROSP'T			Thomas
Speier			A'S	PROSP'T			SKinNJ
Speier	Gomez	Rich	A'S	Sarloos	PROSP'T		Peter
Speier	Zaun		CHISOX	PROSP'T			Rusty
Speier			CUBS	PROSP'T			Noah
Zaun			CHISOX	PROSP'T			Paul D
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Jacko
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Noah
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			SKinNJ
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Peter
Zaun			MARLINS	PTBNL			Kristian
Zaun			YANKEES	Halsey	orGramn		Jim

At this rate it will be a shock if Zaun doesn't end up a Marlin.

I want to change one of my picks if I may...
I had initially said Adams to the cubs for a prospect....
but I want to change that to Adams to the Cubs for a PTBNL

You initially said Adams to the A's. Do you want the Cubs or A's? (Doesn't matter at all to me).

I would also like to update my list:

Change

Adams to Cubs(instead of Mets) for low level prospect

Add

Phelps to Indians for Broussard

Phelps to Indians for Ryan Garko.

Time to dust off the crystal ball, er, glass paperweight...

Terry Adams to the Rangers for a PTBNL

Kerry Ligtenberg to the Giants for a PTBNL

Josh Phelps and Justin Speier to the Indians for Ben Broussard and Josh Bard.

Gregg Zaun, Greg Gross and Russ Adams to the Mets for Jose Reyes and a PTBNL.

Somebody has to put Reyes at shortstop where he belongs.

Hey, the Mets just traded Karim Garcia to the Orioles for Mike DeJean. Have two worse players ever been dealt for each other?

Should those with similar predictions (i.e. Player X to Team Y for prospect) at least pick a prospect to make things a little more interesting?

Should those with similar predictions (i.e. Player X to Team Y for prospect) at least pick a prospect to make things a little more interesting?

It would be more interesting, but if people don't want to, you can't make 'em.

Of course, by not naming a player, you can't win any of the "Each correct player traded to the Jays: +2" bonus points. So I'd say it's worth guessing.

Tosca to the A's for Ken Macha, and we'll throw in the Unicorn

Hmmmm....

-I doubt Cat will be dealt since he's hurting.
-I doubt anyone wants a DH who can't hit RHP.
-I doubt Batista or Lilly will be traded, since they're both cheap and effective.

So that leaves...who? Gregg Zaun and the Arson Squad?

I'll say Adams to the Giants for a PTBNL is the only trade.

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C'est la vie....

Here's my predictions.

1- Greg Zaun and Chris Woodward to St. Louisfor a mid-level prospect
2- Reed Johnson to Seattle for Gil Meche

That is all.

Rock on.

Speier to Oakland for a cuttlefish. Or cash/minor prospect/thanks for Menechino.

That's the only trade I predict.

Hey, the Mets just traded Karim Garcia to the Orioles for Mike DeJean. Have two worse players ever been dealt for each other?

Don't forget 1987... September 22, down the stretch, Tigers and Jays battling for the AL East... Cubs trade Dickie Noles to the Tigers for PTBNL. October 23, Detroit sends Noles back to the Cubs to complete the trade.

I'm not sure if Dickie Noles squared is better or worse than Karim Garcia and Mike DeJean, but if we take the careers of Garcia and DeJean as a whole rather than just 2004 in isolation it might be close. :)

Dickie Noles! Now, there's a memory.

Okay, what the hell... With a minimum of analysis, I'll predict:

-Gregg Zaun and a no-name A-ball pitcher (not a real prospect) to CWS for Arnie Munoz
-Terry Adams to Oak for Graham Koonce
-Kerry Ligtenberg to SF for cash
-Ted Lilly to Min for Mike Restovich and Boof Bonser

Delgado doesn't waive his no-trade... Batista isn't dealt (Min won't trade Morneau)... Catalanotto never gets healthy enough for anyone to want him... Speier sticks around for 2005... No market for Phelps so he's not dealt at least until the off-season.

M.

I will throw one guess out there...

Justin Speier to the Cubs for prospect Brendan Harris.

Dickie Noles! Now, there's a memory.

I had to look up the exact dates, but I remembered the deal and the year... Sad, huh? :)

M.

I don't think that we'll see anything, but NFH and Moffatt seem rather protective of that pick, so...

Ligtenberg to the Cleveland for a bag of balls.

A couple of IFs:
1) Myers gets healthy quick, I see Zaun departing.
2) Delgado decides to waive his No-Trade clause, he's off.

Marlins and Dodgers are the popular picks, and I don't think we'll get an major-leaguers or near-top prospects back.

Jumping back a bit, I had said I wanted to change my prediction to adams going to the cubs for a ptbnl but I really meant going to the A's as I had previously indicated... sorry for the confusion

I don't think that we'll see anything, but NFH and Moffatt seem rather protective of that pick, so...

I let NFH take that one.. I made one smallish prediction as well.

3 trades:
Cat to Oakland for PTBNL
T Adams to StL for PTBNL
Speier to Minn for PTBNL

My predictions

Cat to St. Louis for prospect
Terry Adams to Boston for a bag of balls
Delgado waives his no trade clause and goes to LA for a rehabbing Greg Miller (Jays still pay most of Delgado's salary).

The updated list:

TRADED			TO	RETURN			GUESSER
Adams,T			A'S	Koonce			MK
Adams,T	PROSP'T		A'S	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		Paul D
Adams,T			A'S	PTBNL			Noah
Adams,T			CARDS	PTBNL			Pistol
Adams,T			CUBS	PROSP'T			Peter
Adams,T			CUBS	PTBNL	or 	$$$$	ForbesM
Adams,T			GIANTS	PTBNL			R Lind
Adams,T			METS	PROSP'T			Rusty
Adams,T			RANGERS	PTBNL			P Smith
Adams,T			REDSOX	Bag of	balls		Crist'n
Adams,T			REDSOX	PROSP'T			Jacko
Batista			RANGERS	Gonz,A	Benoit		Peter
Batista			TWINS	Crain	Res'vch		ForbesM
Batista	Phelps	Zaun	TWINS	Morneau	Crain	Baker	Marc
Batista	Rich		TWINS	Morneau			Noah
Cat			A'S	PTBNL			Pistol
Cat			CARDS	PROSP'T			Noah
Cat			CARDS	PROSP'T			SKinNJ
Cat			CARDS	PROSP'T			Crist'n
Cat			GIANTS	PROSP'T			Rob
Cat			MARLINS	Nunez,A			Chris B
Cat			MARLINS	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		ForbesM
Cat			REDSOX	PROSP'T			Peter
Delgado			DODGERS	Han'han	Encarn'		Peter
Delgado			DODGERS	Loney			Kristian
Delgado			DODGERS	Miller			Crist'n
Johnson			A'S	Baker,J			Moffatt
Johnson			CARDS	Gall,J			Nic'las
Johnson			M'S	Meche			Ken K
L'berg			GIANTS	$$$$			MK
L'berg			GIANTS	PTBNL			P Smith
L'berg			INDIANS	Bag of	balls		Fawaz K
Lilly			TWINS	Res'vch	Bonser		MK
Lilly			YANKEES	Cano			Mick
Phelps			INDIANS	Bro'srd			Peter
Phelps	Speier		INDIANS	Bro'srd	Bard		P Smith
Phelps			INDIANS	Garko			Jacko
Phelps			M'S	Meche			Kristian
Phelps	Speier		TWINS	PROSP'T	PROSP'T		AndrewS
Rios	PROSP'T		A'S	Harden			AndrewS
Speier			A'S	PROSP'T			Thomas
Speier			A'S	PROSP'T			SKinNJ
Speier			A'S	PROSP'T	or 	$$$$	John S
Speier	Gomez	Rich	A'S	Sarloos	PROSP'T		Peter
Speier	Zaun		CHISOX	PROSP'T			Rusty
Speier			CUBS	Harris			Chris H
Speier			CUBS	PROSP'T			Noah
Speier			TWINS	PTBNL			Pistol
Tosca	Unicorn		A'S	Macha			Shadow
Zaun	Woody		CARDS	PROSP'T			Ken K
Zaun	PROSP'T		CHISOX	Munoz,A			MK
Zaun			CHISOX	PROSP'T			Paul D
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Jacko
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Noah
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			SKinNJ
Zaun			MARLINS	PROSP'T			Peter
Zaun			MARLINS	PTBNL			Kristian
Zaun	Gross	Adams,R	METS	Reyes	PTBNL		P Smith
Zaun			YANKEES	Halsey	or 	Graman	Jim

Some pretty common themes here. Zaun to the Marlins, Speier to the A's, Adams pretty much anywhere but Toronto.

Moffatt, when I saw that you included Shadow's Tosca-and-Unicorn-for-Ken-Macha trade in the list I spit my coffee all over the place.

Adams pretty much anywhere but Toronto.

That's what they call some of that wishful thinking.

By the way, I just read the part in Chasing Steinbrenner where Jeff Tam approached Tosca after a tough loss wearing nothing but shaving cream head-to-toe and said "I'm your white knight" and now I feel kinda bad for giving him a hard time last year.

He didn't pitch great for us, but he sounds like he was a scream in the clubhouse.

Moffatt, when I saw that you included Shadow's Tosca-and-Unicorn-for-Ken-Macha trade in the list I spit my coffee all over the place.

Heheheh. I wasn't sure if shadow was serious or not.

I still can't figure out how the Jays are going to trade away *my* magic unicorn. Unless they engineer some sort of unicorn for Hazel Mae trade with my organization. Unfortunately, I think my boss (Hannah) might veto such a deal. :)

Twins fans are dreading the trade of Morneau; but if Terry Ryan is willing, how about Batista and Orlando Hudson for Morneau. Then again, Batista just signed a contract, so it wouldn't exactly be in good faith to move him...

I still can't figure out how the Jays are going to trade away *my* magic unicorn.

It's not your magic unicorn. You said, "I'd like a magic unicorn that craps M&Ms." Clearly you don't have the rights to such a unicorn yet. I would be willing to send you one for a pink gargoyl and a hobbit to be named later.

unicorn for Hazel Mae trade with my organization

Moffatt, the Hazel Mae talk is in the Roundup thread. Get it right!

Hey, I missed all of the trade speculation. Let me throw it my two cents, none of it likely:

1) Terry Adams and a B-pitching prospect to Texas for Kevin Mench.

2) Chris Gomez to some National League Central team for pictures of Lindsey Lohan and some 29-year old AA catcher who has never played in the majors.

I see Spicol has picked up on the Mench idea before I have but I will throw my twist on it. I honestly don't think Adams does this deal so, as posted in todays game thread, Lilly for Mench as the principles, plus the Jays throw in the PTBNL.

Add Mench to the OF mix and you have way more pop in the lineup. Sparky become the forth OF and pinch hitter/runner thus offers the team true value. If Delgado walks at leat 2/3 of the power loss is covered. It would allow Cat to take over first possibly instead of going to the free agent market for overpriced over the hill talent.

Put it in the bank.

Damn!

There goes my only prediction out the window.

Congrats to Jacko.