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I somehow got the dates mixed up, and thought that the voting was to start on the 15th of February. It turns out it was supposed to end on the 15th of February. Mea culpa. So I've changed the dates of voting from February 16th to the 18th, to give us a few more days to discuss possible rule changes. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Voting Period Has Started - Current Owners Get Your Ballots in ASAP!

I don't think I've missed any of the propositions, but if I have please let me know, and I'll add them. From our old thread, here's the rule change propositions we'll be voting on.

PROPOSITIONS

Proposition 201: Rule Changes be limited to the Off-Season Rule Change Period
(a) yes
(b) no

Proposition 202: 2004-2005 Off-Season Time Line
(a) Use Current Moffatt Schedule Next Off-Season
(b) Discuss at Beginning of Next Off-Season

Proposition 203: Add a Second Twenty Team Division (the Barfield Division) to the BBFL
(a) Yes
(b) No
[Note: We already have 21 people on the waiting list for teams. If you'd like to be added to the waiting list, please e-mail me at economics.guide@about.com]

Proposition 204: If Proposition 203 Passes, How Many Teams Relegated Each Year
(a) 0
(b) 3
(c) 4
(d) 5

Proposition 205: If Propositions 203 and 204 Pass (where pass is implied to mean 0 not chosen), What Order Used to Swap Teams
(a) Worst Alomar Finisher Assigned Best Barfield Team (and so on)
(b) Worst Alomar Finisher Assigned Worst Promoted Barfield Team (and so on)
(c) Random Assignment
(d) Barfield Team Chooses Alomar Team to Take Over
(e) Rosters of Relegated and Promoted Teams Drafted at Season's End

Proposition 206: Switch to Yahoo Premium with a Cost of $7 Per Team
(a) Yes
(b) No

Proposition 207: If Proposition 203 Passes, Will Barfield Division Be a Keeper League?
(a) Yes
(b) No

Proposition 208: Adopt names Alomar Division and Barfield Division (if nec) permanently:
(a) Yes
(b) No

Proposition 209: If Proposition 203 Passes and 204 Passes, should the bottom "X" teams of the Barfield division be relegated, where "X" is determined by Proposition 204.
(a) Bottom X Barfield teams be relegated to the Carter Division if it is created. If Carter Division is not created, teams not relegated.
(b) Bottom X Barfield teams be relegated to the Carter Division if it is created. If Carter Division is not created, owners of these teams replaced by people on the waiting list.
(c) Bottom X Barfield teams not relegated

Proposition 210: The draft be held at 9:00PM EST to accomodate players from the West Coast, and that we attempt to get a date around the 1st of April.
(a) Yes
(b) No

Proposition 211: If Propositions 203 and 204 Pass, how should standings for relegation purposes be determined?
(a) By order of regular season finish
(b) By order of playoff finish

As a final note, if you've sent me an e-mail about the BBFL and I never responded, please send again to economics.guide@about.com. I have a rather over-active spam filter, so notes do get lost from time to time.

Posted by Pepper Moffatt on Friday, February 13 2004 @ 05:08 AM EST.

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Craig B - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 05:14 PM EST (#78515) #

In case it needs to be said again,

That was over the line, Mike. Mark it zero, Dude.

_Jonny German - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 05:38 PM EST (#78516) #

I don't think I've missed any of the propositions, but if I have please let me know, and I'll add them

Coach seconded my proposal that the draft be held the evening of Thursday, April 1 (Yahoo! permitting, of course). I seconded Jurgen's proposal owners be relegated out of the Barfield division as well, being replaced by waiting list people or Carter division people, if such a division comes into existence.

Will voting be done by e-mail, or by posting in this thread?

Pepper Moffatt - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 07:26 PM EST (#78517) #

http://economics.about.com
Via e-mail, secret ballot.

Cheers,

Mike

_Rob - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 07:27 PM EST (#78518) #

Would it be possible to see the names of the 21 people on the waiting list, Mike? I'm not sure if my e-mail got through. Thanks.

Gitz - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 08:04 PM EST (#78519) #

Moffatt,

Does my status as a Box "author" give me an edge on the waiting list?

_A - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 08:14 PM EST (#78520) #

Does my status as a Box "author" give me an edge on the waiting list?

Careful not to get too close to that edge, the 20 other people on that list might give you the nudge that pushes you over ;-)

_Gwyn - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 08:43 PM EST (#78521) #

Commissar Moffat,

I assume 205(d) is in order of finish (ie the best Barfield team gets to pick first)?

When is the trading window and can you please send out a list of email addresses for each team

_Brad - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 09:32 PM EST (#78522) #

Just a reminder that an evening weekday draft is fine but not too early for us in Pacific time (5:30 Pacific would work for me).

Also, as I am new to keeper leagues, I'd like some discussion about why the date to announce keepers should or shouldn't be near draft day (maybe 48 hours prior). Thanks!

Pepper Moffatt - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 10:14 PM EST (#78523) #

http://economics.about.com
Would it be possible to see the names of the 21 people on the waiting list, Mike? I'm not sure if my e-mail got through. Thanks.

Sure. The list of people I have on the list (in order of priority is):

Pistol
Whittaker
Gitz
Burley
MacKenzie
Delorme
Vanstrien
Simon
Baseballnut
Ben
Beaudry
Goodwin, M
Mackinnon
sweat
Couchot
Andrew
Chaleff-Freudenthaler
Sprague
Armitage
Jackson
Goodwin, D

I haven't checked my About e-mail since noon today, so if you emailed me today I haven't added you to the list.

I'll send out replies to anyone who has e-mailed me, and I'll send off an e-mail to the current owners tomorrow morning.

Cheers,

Mike

Coach - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 10:30 PM EST (#78524) #

As soon as someone notices that Yahoo is open for business, please let Mike know ASAP -- the good draft times are scooped up very quickly.

Brad, declaring keepers early lets everyone else "exclude" them on their Yahoo pre-rankings and gives you a week to rank the remaining free agents. If somebody's keeper gets hurt between the deadline and the draft, that's rotten luck, and they will probably be proposing a future rule change. I'm in another league that does allow last-minute changes, but only in the event of injury.

If anyone is interested in Mike Lowell, Orlando Cabrera, Milton Bradley, Torii Hunter, Francisco Rodriguez, Mark Loretta, Paul LoDuca, David Wells or Carl Pavano as possible keepers, you could acquire any three of them, or even four if you wish, for one player. I am looking for a second-round type in return, preferably a hitter.

_Brad - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 10:51 PM EST (#78525) #

Thanks for the insight, Coach. Makes a lot of sense, though the tentative BBFL schedule has keepers announced a month before draft date which may be too much time???
Next question: How would the $7 be paid if we vote for a Premium league (can each owner send in his own payment or will someone have to pay for the whole league and get reimbursed by each owner?

Coach - Friday, February 13 2004 @ 11:45 PM EST (#78526) #

Article VI of the BBFL constitution says:

All owners must list their keepers on the league message board at least one week prior to the draft. No changes will be permitted after that deadline.

I think Mike's proposed date to declare keepers right after the trading window closes is intended as a courtesy to other owners, and I completely agree with that, but if Jason Schmidt has elbow surgery two weeks before the draft, I'll be making a change. :)

As to the premium service, somebody would have to pay Yahoo and collect from everybody else. Any owner can order Stat Tracker individually, but this is a league deal only, which includes quite a bit more, like the prize.

_Rob - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 12:20 AM EST (#78527) #

I've heard that the BBFL is not for beginners, and I have little experience with fantasy baseball. Would it be in my best interests to wait to join the BBFL until I know more about this type of league? Or is this a "trial-by-fire" situation where I learn a lot even though I will probably finish in last? Again, thanks.

Lucas - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 12:25 AM EST (#78528) #

I think Mike's proposed date to declare keepers right after the trading window closes is intended as a courtesy to other owners, and I completely agree with that, but if Jason Schmidt has elbow surgery two weeks before the draft, I'll be making a change. :)

Seconded, to the extent that you can second a comment.

If the draft takes place 1 April, declared keepers would be locked as of 25 March. Seems reasonable to me. Should anyone want to mention additional or changed keepers in this thread, I'll update the website. (Or I will when I reinstall Dreamweaver, as my motherboard self-immolated last week and I decided to start with a clean drive.)

Keepers are listed here

_Brad - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 12:32 AM EST (#78529) #

Thank you again Coach, and Lucas for your second! (I'm waiting a bit longer to select my 5th keeper in case Ryan or Tanana replace Aaron Sele in the Angels' rotation).

Lucas - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 01:27 AM EST (#78530) #

http://bbfl.scottlucas.com
Rob,

The BBFL owners seem to be a pretty experienced group, but it's not so much the competition as the adjustment to the size of the league.

Most fantasy owners join leagues with 8-12 teams. In those, you can generally ignore middle relievers and mediocre starters, and halfway decent players are almost always available on the waiver wire. In a 20-team league with over 450 players drafted, you have to know about practically everyone. Can Lyle Overbay outperform Carlos Pena? Is Laynce Nix for real? Is Aaron Miles? These are the decisions we'll be making on draft day.

In the BBFL and similarly sized leagues, the waiver wire is a graveyard. There is quality if you're very lucky (I picked up Scott Podsednik) but mostly it's backup catchers, the wrong ends of platoons, and Cesar Izturis. So you can't compensate for mistakes in your draft by picking up a mediocre placeholder like Tino Martinez or Wes Helms. More likely you're looking at Julio Franco.

_R Billie - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 01:56 AM EST (#78531) #

Hey, I gave serious consideration to picking up Cesar at one point. Of course this was after I gave away Giles and Berroa. In my defence I thought I was dropping Geronimo.

_sweat - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 05:22 AM EST (#78532) #

was there a decision as to a second league being formed?

_sweat - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 05:25 AM EST (#78533) #

Sorry, 3 hours sleep(just drove my mom to the airport) does not a smart sweat make. An april 1st draft means that the march 30-31 games tokyo wont be included in the season. any reasoning behind that?

_Spicol - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 10:33 AM EST (#78534) #

Yahoo will include the stats retroactively if we wish.

And I think we do, right?

Coach - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 11:38 AM EST (#78535) #

Yahoo will include the stats retroactively if we wish.

Sure, we'll know how many bases Carl Crawford has stolen after two games, but that shouldn't have a major impact on anyone's draft strategy. I'm in a league that drafts on the first Saturday after Opening Day every year, and it's actually good to know who made the final 25-man rosters.

the waiver wire is a graveyard.

One GM (who shall remain nameless because he's such an idiot) picked up Dontrelle Willis off waivers last year. After his third start, when the D-Train was derailed in three innings, and his ERA was a soaring 7.07, this Branch Rickey-wannabe cut him. The rookie proceeded to throw shutouts in two of his next three starts and was "replaced" by a revolving door of stiffs including Kevin Jarvis.

_NDG - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 12:31 PM EST (#78536) #

Since I don't see my name on the waiting list and haven't heard any response from yesterday's e-mail, I must be one of those being 'rejected' by Moffatt's spamware. I'm sure it's just he's scared but I'll throw my name in the hat on a public forum so he can't ignore me anymore!

Mike, COMN if you haven't received my e-mails so I can try and figure out why.

_Rob - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 01:55 PM EST (#78537) #

Thanks for the info, Scott. Despite what I've heard and how much time I will have to devote to the league, I am looking forward to particpating anyway. It should be fun.

That is, if I can get on the waiting list. I'm not listed nor did I receive a reply. I'm going to use NDG's strategy and add myself to the list here, in hopes that I can join the Barfield division.

COMN as well, Mike. I just want to be sure you know I want to be on the list.

_Geoff North - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 03:47 PM EST (#78538) #

As the big loser in the inaugeral year of the BBFL, I think I can safely say that yeah, this league is tough. I was pretty much a rookie, and felt that way, being clearly outclassed almost the entire season. I do feel that I've learned a lot though, and have hopes of at least not finishing last this year. :P Rookie mistakes I hope to not repeat again? Punting TWO categories entirely... saves and steals. Didn't really mean to, but I did. Ending up with too many 1b/DH types. Blowing my waiver spot early on, on fungible talent. Being too attached to my players to pull the trigger on good trades, and being a lameass and not responding to trade requests in a timely fashion.

That said, I don't think a regular public yahoo league is really good preparation for a league like this. I played in a few of those and did ok, but they are such different experiences as pointed out already in this thread, that they don't develop the skills that are needed in a league this deep. That's also where my bad trade habits developed (though the first few weeks of the BBFL all the trade offers I received were jokes).

One of the main things about this level of difficulty is that it excacerbates the luck you're having - and mine was bad. Mulder went down with a season ending injury, Olerud and Palmeiro had big drop offs in their productivity, Wade Miller was mediocre, and none of my gambles worked out - Giambi was terrible, Contreras took half the season to get the kinks worked out and Ainsworth had a season ending injury. Couple that with rookie mistakes overall and in the draft, and well, it's not too surprising that the season ended as it did.

Pepper Moffatt - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 04:30 PM EST (#78539) #

http://economics.about.com
Hey everyone,

I'll make sure everyone gets on the list.. I'm running around doing all kinds of Valentine's Day stuff today, so you probably won't hear from me tomorrow morning.

Cheers,

Mike

_Rob - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 04:52 PM EST (#78540) #

I have so many questions about this league, I'll just post some of them at once and let the more knowledgable answer them.

What, exactly, is the $7 Premium Service for, and how do we pay it? (All I have is cash, as I'm only 16)

If Alomar last place teams are relegated, what happens to those in the Barfield basement? Replaced by waitlist people?

How long does a draft usually take?

Does anyone really believe Mike has something to do on Valentine's Day? ;)

And, if none of the incoming owners have keepers, do they just draft whoever is left after the original 20 have automatically selected their keepers?

For the third or fourth time, thanks in advance.

Pepper Moffatt - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 05:20 PM EST (#78541) #

http://economics.about.com
Does anyone really believe Mike has something to do on Valentine's Day? ;)

Hehehehe.. well, my dogs aren't going to walk themselves.

It's funny.. I was just watching TV with my S/O when I caught the A-Rod/Soriano deal news. Fortunately she had to call her parents, so I got to sneak away for a few minutes. Now time to check my e-mail! :)

Cheers,

Mike

_Donkit R.K. - Saturday, February 14 2004 @ 09:37 PM EST (#78542) #

*chuckles softly*

Pepper Moffatt - Sunday, February 15 2004 @ 03:20 PM EST (#78543) #

http://economics.about.com
Wow, I'm an idiot.

I had four people e-mail me telling me that they had mailed me some time ago, and never got a reply. I thought it was really unlikely that my spam filter ate that many e-mails (even one is unlikely, but it does happen from time to time). At first I thought you guys were pulling my leg, but I did a search for your mails. It turns out that they all came within 2 days of each other, and I saved them in a folder called "BBFL E-mails - Reply to these ASAP". Sorry guys. :)

I added people to the list in the order of the time of their original request. Here's the list as it stands now:

1 Pistol
2 Whittaker
3 Gitz
4 Burley
5 MacKenzie
6 Delorme
7 Vanstrien
8 Simon
9 Baseballnut
10 Ben
11 Beaudry
12 Goodwin, M
13 Mackinnon
14 sweat
15 Couchot
16 Andrew
17 Chaleff-Freudenthaler
18 Sprague
19 Armitage
20 Jackson
21 Goodwin, D
22 Emshey
23 Pettapiece
24 Bembenek
25 Navin
26 Maslanyk

If I'm missing anyone else, please e-mail me at economics.guide@about.com.

Cheers,

Mike

Pepper Moffatt - Sunday, February 15 2004 @ 04:46 PM EST (#78544) #

http://economics.about.com
I've sent all the current owners an e-mail as of 4:40 this afternoon. If you don't get it, let me know, either on here, or via e-mail.

Cheers,

Mike

_Rob - Sunday, February 15 2004 @ 09:37 PM EST (#78545) #

Thanks Mike. I know how annoying e-mail service is. As of now (9:36) I haven't received your reply, but I'll wait. It might take a while longer, but thank you for adding me to the list. Now I just need 3 people to step aside, and I'm good to go. :)

Looking forward to this season, A-Rod news notwithstanding.

Pepper Moffatt - Sunday, February 15 2004 @ 09:54 PM EST (#78546) #

http://economics.about.com
Thanks Mike. I know how annoying e-mail service is. As of now (9:36) I haven't received your reply, but I'll wait. It might take a while longer, but thank you for adding me to the list. Now I just need 3 people to step aside, and I'm good to go.

That's because I haven't sent it yet. I figured you'd be checking back here. :)

Cheers,

Mike

_Rob - Sunday, February 15 2004 @ 10:04 PM EST (#78547) #

I've sent all the current owners an e-mail as of 4:40

Ah, current. Rob needs to read the post closer. My bad.
And you're right, I did check Da Box before Da E-mail.

_Warse - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 02:35 AM EST (#78548) #

Hey Mike, just hoping I can be added to the waiting list.....I e-mailed you already, but given the comments above I though it best to post my request as well!!

Thanks.

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 08:02 AM EST (#78549) #

http://economics.about.com
I got your e-mail this morning, and you've been added to the list. The system works! :)

Cheers,

Mike

Craig B - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 08:27 AM EST (#78550) #

There are 26 (27?) people on the waiting list.

This is enough to give us two more leagues if we really want. I'm suer we can get a league of 20 up and running within a week if we wish.

So, ladies and gentlemen, I propose

BBFL2!

Mike, could you please send the addresses, etc., to me at my work e-mail? I will try to get BBFL2 up and running shortly. Those who do NOT want to be BBFL2 members, and would rather remain on the BBFL waiting list, should be free to do so.

If not too many BBFL waiting listers wish to switch over to BBFL2, we may do an AL-only league with 10 owners. But I think copying the BBFL in every detail is the way to go at first!

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 08:39 AM EST (#78551) #

http://economics.about.com
Keep in mind that we may be adding a 2nd 20-team division in the next couple of days, so the waiting list should go from 27 to 7 or so. But hey, the more fantasy baseball, the better!

Cheers,

Mike

Craig B - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 08:42 AM EST (#78552) #

Ah, I didn't realize. I didn't see anything happening and didn't want to let it slip too far. Coolness!

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 08:56 AM EST (#78553) #

http://economics.about.com

Note to all Current Owners

I'll be mailing out the ballots at 3:00PM EST today, so if there are any last minute proposals, make them now! You'll have until 11:59PM EST on the 18th to get your ballots in!

I've added two proposals mentioned on the thread. 209 deals with the possible relegation system of another division is added in the future. 210 selects a time and date for the next draft.

Cheers,

Mike

_Spicol - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 12:32 PM EST (#78554) #

Proposition 209 seems a little hasty to me. Let's see how a Barfield division works before contemplating adding a Carter.

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 12:49 PM EST (#78555) #

http://economics.about.com
We're not going to add a Carter this year, and if the Barfield division is a flop, I doubt we'd even consider doing it. The proposal just gives us a frame of reference if we discuss adding Carter next year.

Mind you, I won't be terribly disappointed if we vote NO on 209. It's a pretty innocuous proposal.

Cheers,

Mike

_Justin B. - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 12:52 PM EST (#78556) #

Sorry if this has been discussed in a previous thread (I can't remember), but in terms of relegation, is it based on the regular season standings or on the results after the playoffs?

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 01:03 PM EST (#78557) #

http://economics.about.com
Sorry if this has been discussed in a previous thread (I can't remember), but in terms of relegation, is it based on the regular season standings or on the results after the playoffs?

That is a good question. I'm sure we ended up deciding one way, but I can't seem to recall what our decision was. Does anyone remember?

For which teams go down, it won't matter since those teams won't make the playoffs. For the teams that go up, however, it will matter a great deal. At the end of the season this year we ranked the teams based on playoff performance, so I assume that's what we decided to do for next year as well.

Cheers,

Mike

Lucas - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 01:22 PM EST (#78558) #

FWIW: Yahoo claims its fantasy baseball sign-ups will begin in mid-February, which is now, of course. If drafts do fill up fast, we need to keep an eye on Yahoo to ensure we get the best possible draft time.

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 01:31 PM EST (#78559) #

http://economics.about.com
Sounds good.. I'll keep an eye out on Yahoo, and I encourage everyone to do the same.

Cheers,

Mike

_Jonny German - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 01:33 PM EST (#78560) #

Mind you, I won't be terribly disappointed if we vote NO on 209. It's a pretty innocuous proposal.

It was more nocuous as proposed, with relegation happening as long as there's a waiting list, not just if a Carter division is added. The key point of it, either way, is that it makes Barfield owners manage more like the Alomar owners - There's a motivation not to finish at or near the bottom.

At the end of the season this year we ranked the teams based on playoff performance, so I assume that's what we decided to do for next year as well.

I'll shut up if this was already discussed and generally agreed upon (I don't remember either), but I strongly disagree with ranking based on playoffs. The small sample sizes make fantasy playoffs even less true-to-talent than the real world playoffs.

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 01:39 PM EST (#78561) #

http://economics.about.com
It was more nocuous as proposed, with relegation happening as long as there's a waiting list, not just if a Carter division is added.

Ahh.. I completely misread the proposal. I'll change it to the original intent. Sorry about that.

I'll shut up if this was already discussed and generally agreed upon (I don't remember either), but I strongly disagree with ranking based on playoffs. The small sample sizes make fantasy playoffs even less true-to-talent than the real world playoffs.

I honestly can't remember, so I'll do the only democratic thing: I'll put it to a vote!

Cheers,

Mike

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 03:13 PM EST (#78562) #

http://economics.about.com
The voting period has begun! I've e-mailed all the current owners, so if you haven't been sent a ballot, PLEASE e-mail me.

After you vote, I'll send you a confirmation e-mail that your vote has been tabulated.

Cheers,

Mike

_Shrike - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 06:12 PM EST (#78563) #

209 (b) is the truly noxious option. My two cents as a prospective Barfield owner (3rd in queue).

_Ben - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 07:14 PM EST (#78564) #

I'm hearing various things that Yahoo opens on Wednesday. I'm not positive however.

_Rob - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 10:59 PM EST (#78565) #

This just occured to me...Don't we need two drafts, since we have 40 managers drafting 25 players? MLB only has 30 teams. Maybe this has already been talked about, but I'm confused.

Do the 20 guys in Alomar draft theirs, and then Barfield drafts its teams separately?

_Rob - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 11:00 PM EST (#78566) #

(I'm assuming, of course, that Prop 203 is passed.)

Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 16 2004 @ 11:10 PM EST (#78567) #

http://economics.about.com
This just occured to me...Don't we need two drafts, since we have 40 managers drafting 25 players? MLB only has 30 teams. Maybe this has already been talked about, but I'm confused.

Yep. During the season, the two divisions run completely independently and Alomar teams never play Barfield teams. So I can have Derek Jeter on my Alomar division team, and you could have him on your Barfield division team.

The only time the two divisions interact is at the end of the season, when some teams move up to the A division, and some move down to the B division. That is assuming that there are two divisions, and there is a relegation scheme.

Hope that this clears things up.

On a side note: I've heard from 12 of 20 current owners. If you're one of the 8 owners who hasn't voted, could you please do so. :)

Cheers,

Mike

_Rob - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:00 PM EST (#78568) #

Thanks Mike. Looking forward to the results of the vote, which we can expect to know...soon?

_David Goodwin - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 06:26 PM EST (#78569) #

Comissioner Moffatt et al,

Yahoo leagues are now open.

I now realize why the original closing date for voting of Feb 15 was well thought out. The Barfield division doesn't even yet exist to grab a draft slot... And who was the comissioner supposed to be for the B division? Does my memory serve correctly and it is Craig? Perhaps if early returns from the voting show overwhelming support for creating the Barfield division, the commisioner can move forward and get the league signed up.

Pistol - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 07:04 PM EST (#78570) #

It takes some navigation to get to the Yahoo fantasy baseball signups. I tried to reserve a draft time, but when I submitted the time it took me to a blank screen.

Not sure if anyone else has any luck with it.

Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 07:05 PM EST (#78571) #

http://economics.about.com
Yahoo leagues are now open.

I'm on it! Thanks so much for the heads up.

I now realize why the original closing date for voting of Feb 15 was well thought out.

Actually, to the best of my knowledge, it's just a coincidence. :)

The Barfield division doesn't even yet exist to grab a draft slot...

We've signed it up the Barfield division, in case we need it. If we don't, we can always abandon it.

Does my memory serve correctly and it is Craig?

We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Perhaps if early returns from the voting show overwhelming support for creating the Barfield division, the commisioner can move forward and get the league signed up.

I'm mum on the results, but we were prepared for the event that Yahoo would open up before the voting was completed. Give me a little credit here. :)

Cheers,

Mike

Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 07:10 PM EST (#78572) #

http://economics.about.com
Pistol: The form doesn't work with IE (with the Google toolbar installed at least). So I took Joe's advice, downloaded FireFox, and it works like a charm!

Cheers,

Mike

_David Goodwin - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 07:33 PM EST (#78573) #

I love the new interface Yahoo has designed, which seems to be much more robust and functional. They've added a window for split stats, including L/R, Day/Night, Home/Away, Grass/Turf - talk about sweet. They've also added a Can't Cut list, which should "cut" down on some of the problems in public leagues, and at the very least protect against accidental dropping of star players. Another neat feature is the "watch list", which you can select players to keep an eye on.

I also was having problems in IE when selecting a draft time for my own private leagues, but Mozilla worked like a charm. The draft day/time selection applet seems to have some bugs even using Mozilla, but once you've registered a league, changing the day/time works perfectly.

And Mike, the reason I asked about who the Barfield commisioner was, is that I assumed (evidently incorrectly) that it would be the commisioner that needed to register the league. I guess both leagues will be registered with you as commish, but you can carry out the wishes of whoever is chosen as Barfield comissioner (since all those Commisioners tools are only available to you who signed the league up).

Anyhow, I'm pumped - bring on the BBFL (even if I'm the first on the waiting list...)

Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 07:38 PM EST (#78574) #

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is that I assumed (evidently incorrectly) that it would be the commisioner that needed to register the league.

Actually, you assume correctly.

I'm clever, though, and I found a workaround. For the Barfield division, I created a new Yahoo account, and registered the Barfield account under this new account. If/when Barfield gets a commish, they can have that Yahoo account for themselves.

I told ya, I'm smarter than the average bear. :)

Cheers,

Mike

_David Goodwin - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 07:38 PM EST (#78575) #

For an idea of who Yahoo deems "too good to cut", here's their current Can't Cut list, which will be updated throughout they year as need be. Poor Jays get no love... not even Doc on there.

T. Helton
P. Martinez
C. Beltran
M. Prior
A. Soriano
C. Schilling
G. Sheffield
R. Johnson
B. Bonds
V. Guerrero
M. Tejada
J. Posada
S. Sosa
E. Gagne
A. Rodriguez
N. Garciaparra
A. Pujols

Pistol - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 08:49 AM EST (#78576) #

So when are the times & dates of the draft that are signed up for?

Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 10:37 AM EST (#78577) #

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I'll be starting a new thread with all the need-to-know info once I get all the votes in.

VOTING ENDS TONIGHT

There are six of you who still owe me ballots, so try to get them in as soon as possible!

Cheers,

Mike

_Cristian - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 09:00 PM EST (#78578) #

I believe that draft times for Yahoo fantasy baseball are now available on a first come first serve basis.

Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 10:30 PM EST (#78579) #

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I believe that draft times for Yahoo fantasy baseball are now available on a first come first serve basis.

Yep. Thanks to David Goodwin, the BBFL got pretty much the first choice of slots. :)

Cheers,

Mike

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