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As Batter's Box Entry #1000 approaches, we decided to take an opportunity to pat ourselves on the back. Those of you who abhor such shamelessness should click the "Back" button immediately.


Craig writes:

When Jordan first asked me to join him on Batter's Box last December, I knew he and Kent only from their frequent and high-quality posts on Baseball Primer. I accepted with alacrity. (Does anyone ever do anything with alacrity except accepting, I wonder?) As I noted in my original e-mail to those guys, I had intended to start a blog for myself, but didn't have the energy, and joining a ready-made site seemed like a perfect replacement. Batter's Box had had a couple thousand hits, and was a couple of months old. It looked and felt like a "blog".

Within a week, Kent's masterful piece on Pete Rose wound up in my inbox. It's still the best thing I've ever seen on the implications of Rose's return, and it made me think "wow, something good is going to happen with this blog."

Little did I know that we were going to wind up, less than a year later, as far from a "blog" as it is possible to get, without falling over. We have a lively site, Toronto-centric but not exclusively. We are delivering the best baseball interviews in the country. We have an enthusiastic readership and "postership" -- in fact, we've become a baseball-lovin' community. We run the gamut of baseball from yesterday's game reports to ancient history, and from number-crunching to elegiac praise of Roy Halladay's two-seam fastball. And on top of it all, I have made two good friends out of guys I didn't know.

In terms of baseball websites in Canada, I'll borrow a famous metaphor from Rube Foster... We Are The Ship; All Else The Sea. All of this is thanks to our readers; but if we do something that keeps the readers coming back, it's all thanks to the leadership and hard work of Kent (it's easy to be fooled by the Kenny Rogers thing he's got goin' on... but this guy not only is wise, he's a visionary). I feel privileged to freeload off him and hog his glory.

Jordan writes:

Craig is, as usual, being far too modest. Kent and I had zeroed in on him very early as the natural third member of the Batter's Box team, and asking him to come on board was as difficult as asking Dan Shulman if he'd like to be anointed Blue Jays Broadcaster for Life.

But it's Kent that we're here to talk about, and the Blue Jays Website he created. Batter's Box had its genesis at Baseball Therapy, Kent's one-man blog at http://members.rogers.com/hinske11/. If you want to see examples of what he did on his own, go back to the BB archives and read posts #1-30 or so, mostly from last year's World Series. The tremendous quality of both the writing and the analysis just leaps out at you, as they did whenever I read one of Kent's posts at Baseball Primer. I'm an editor in the real world, and an extraordinarily tough evaluator of writing. Kent's prose is outstanding: very few people who write about baseball have the ability to present insightful commentary in words that just leap off the screen and take on a life of their own. "Vibrant" is the word that keeps coming to mind; it's an actual pleasure to read his work. That Kent isn't a writer by trade is one of those small shocking things in life, like finding out that your colleague at the office plays Olympic-level hockey down at the community centre.

But if he was "only" a writer, Kent's contribution to Jays insight on the Internet would be comparable to, well, mine. Happily, Kent is also a technical whiz, an Internet devotee, and as Craig accurately says, a visionary -- one of those people gifted with the ability to identify an absence and how to fill it. In this case, he saw that an online community for Blue Jays fans could be created and built from the ground up, so long as its architects stuck to a few ground rules: intelligence, integrity, dedication and love of the game. And work, lots of hard work, the vast majority of which has been his from Day One. Kent has taken care of virtually all the technical arrangements for Batter's Box, all the behind-the-scenes magic that you and I take for granted as we merrily post our musings day after day. I've told Kent before that calling me the "GM" of the site is a pleasant joke: he truly is the general manager of Batter's Box, in every sense that matters.

Batter's Box was essentially "born" late last October when I posted my first contribution to the site, making it a multi-author zone; Craig joined us soon afterwards, as eventually did the rest of the ZLC. But I guarantee you that on that day, we never, ever thought that less than one year later, the needle would be pushing past 180,000 visitors, that we would have feature-length interviews with JP Ricciardi, Keith Law and the entire Blue Jays coaching staff, and that we would be mentioned on radio and TV sportscasts. And I, for one, never foresaw what BB would become: a place where smart, informed, passionate fans of the Toronto Blue Jays would come, one after another, to share their thoughts, criticisms, compliments and experiences of this reborn organization. It has really become a community, one in which the whole exceeds its parts. And it's a community with a difference: invariably, the dialogue is respectful, considered and insightful, with less static and white noise than virtually any other baseball Website I've come across. And though I didn't see any of this coming, I think that somehow Kent did, and he deserves the full credit for it.

There's no telling what will happen next with Batter's Box: many authors will move on eventually, and new ones will take their place, dedicated I hope to the same principles that have brought us thus far. The three original Cultists all agree that the site is bigger than any of us. Hey, who am I kidding? Bigger than any of us except for Kent Williams. When he e-mailed me a year ago to invite me to post on his new blog, I was flattered and honoured; today, I still am. Thanks for asking me to be part of this amazing experience, Kent -- and happy 1,000th post.

Dave writes:

I am (I believe) the second-oldest of the ZLC (next to Kent, who predates the formation of many of the earth's leading mountain ranges :-)), and I have been discussing/arguing/ranting about Blue Jays baseball on the Internet since the mid-1980's. I can honestly say that, in all this time, I have never been in a more pleasant or more intelligent online environment than the Batter's Box. The quality of the writing and analysis here, and the breadth and depth of the passion for baseball and the Jays, never cease to amaze me.

I ran my own one-man Jays fan site for two years, so I know how much time and effort goes into creating a web site. Kent, and the other Zombies who have helped make this site a reality, deserve all the credit in the world for creating such an enjoyable playpen. I, for one, am pleased as punch to be one of the ZLC, and am grateful to have a forum in which to inflict my metaphor-laden text on the world.

Cheers, Kent, and happy 1000th - this one's for you.

Robert writes:

When Kent contacted me about joining the crew I was thrilled. But I wasn't sure if the type of analysis I do would fit into what was, even at the time, one of the best baseball discussion sites around. Kent hasn't told me to bugger off yet, so I can assume he thinks number crunching has its place in Batter's Box.

I've been amazed by the incredible growth in the numbers of people who read and post, and the quality and breadth of the writing.

We owe it all to Kent. He's pulled us onto the ship one by one and has been the driving force behind much of the original content.

Hats off to Coach!

So without further ado, we give you Entry #1000.
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_BJ Birdy - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 05:57 PM EDT (#89668) #
Let me be the first to congratulate you all on the broken link.

Cheers though, boys, on putting together THE spot for Jays fans on the net. You are to be commended.

Hurrah, azzah, for Da Box.
Pistol - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 06:24 PM EDT (#89669) #
Congrats to Coach, the other ZLC authors, the ZLC visitors and everyone else that ventures in here on a regular basis.

I remember about a year ago I made a quip in a post at Baseball Primer in a Blue Jay based thread about starting up a Blue Jay Primer site (like they did with the Red Sox at Primer). I forget who it was, but someone there pointed me to this site.

I've been coming here every day since, usually several times a day. This site is everything and more than I ever was hoping to find (where else would you be able to indirectly ask the GM question(s))and I'm more of a Blue Jay fan now because of it.
_BJ Birdy - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 06:25 PM EDT (#89670) #
Clearly I spoke to soon. The link, she now functions.

Again, cheers all around.
Mike D - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 06:32 PM EDT (#89671) #
There's no telling what will happen next with Batter's Box: many authors will move on eventually

Gosh, Jordan, I...I thought my arbitration demand was fair, but now I suppose I see the writing on the wall.

Maybe I can persuade the Elephants in Oakland to make me an NRI.

In any event, hooray for the Box!
Craig B - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 06:39 PM EDT (#89672) #
Mike, you're welcome to sign a minor-league deal and we'll invite you to spring training, but there are no guarantees in this cult.
Gitz - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 07:10 PM EDT (#89673) #
Somehow I missed out on the opportunity to add my thanks to Coach -- OK, I was too lazy to write a tiny thank you note, as Craig, Jordan, and Dave did -- but I too am grateful to have a chance to share my off-the-cuff, non-researched, hackneyed, ugly-anti-American views of the baseball world, and the world it belongs to, with the very good people of Canada. (If pushed hard, I would even say I am glad to share my views with Mick and maybe even Moffatt -- but only if pushed.)

Like Jordan, I don't know where we're headed, and, like Craig, I hope to free-load off Coach, who, I confess, is the best writer here; we're all tied for second best.

Congrats, Coach. Cheers from Seattle.
Gitz - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 07:11 PM EDT (#89674) #
Oops. Robert D. also wrote a note. Sorry, Robert!
_Blue in SK - Friday, September 19 2003 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#89675) #
Just a quick note to say thanks for this wonderful site. I had bounced back and forth between various Jays sites, many claiming to post the most intelligent views and insights about the Jays. Well, the proof is in the postings - BB is by far and away, in my humble opinion, the best site around with insightful interviews, and intelligent, mature discussion.

I have just recently discovered the Box and already read it on a daily basis, and I have even checked out some of the archives.

Congratulations to everyone at Batters Box and keep up the great work.
Coach - Saturday, September 20 2003 @ 10:40 AM EDT (#89676) #
Craig and Jordan cooked up this somewhat embarrassing celebration, but I forgive them. Typically, they aren't getting the credit they deserve, not just for their consistently superb writing, but for guiding the development of Da Box at every turn. It works like a minority government; they save me from my worst ideas and contribute many of the best ones. So far, I've avoided a non-confidence vote.

One "real" media type, who shall remain nameless, checked us out when the umpiring crew in St. Louis shafted the Jays, and admits he didn't have to do any more research on the situation or the rules, because Craig's reporting was so thorough. Another professional scribe has confessed that he relies on Jordan as the best source of information about the Jays' farm system. Me too.

Thanks, guys. Batter's Box may not last forever, but these friendships will.

I thought my arbitration demand was fair

Mike, your work as Advance Scout has been superb. Arbitration won't be necessary; how about a lifetime contract, doubling your salary every year?

I hope to free-load off Coach, who, I confess, is the best writer here; we're all tied for second best.

Gitz, as usual, is full of it. If anything, my stuff is "different" because I tend to use this as a diary, babbling away about car accidents, tornadoes and anything else that crosses my mind, while every other author sticks to baseball. Inserting myself into the J.P. interview as a star-struck fan was the only way I knew how to present it; if some readers enjoyed that honesty, great. As a few people pointed out (mostly elsewhere; you're all too kind here) I don't have the talent to do a more "professional" job.

Kent hasn't told me to bugger off yet, so I can assume he thinks number crunching has its place in Batter's Box.

Robert, one of my favourite companions at a ball game, isn't "just" a stats wizard. He can pick up the spin on a cutter, and notices subtleties like defensive alignment. Some of his observations confirm things I thought I knew, others are challenging. I've learned a great deal from him, at the Dome and in these pages. I'm sure my "traditional wisdom" amuses him, but he still asks me questions about hard-to-measure stuff like hitting mechanics, and like Craig, he's always willing to rip me off in a TRHL trade.

...Kent, who predates the formation of many of the earth's leading mountain ranges...

I'm channelling Casey Stengel, Dave. It's not like we were teammates.
Gerry - Saturday, September 20 2003 @ 03:01 PM EDT (#89677) #
Over the past six months Batters Box has become my personal #1 site.

Thanks to all, especially Coach, for his vision to put together such a great meeting place.
Craig B - Saturday, September 20 2003 @ 03:35 PM EDT (#89678) #
I'm channelling Casey Stengel, Dave. It's not like we were teammates.

Weren't you his manager, though?
_Mick - Wednesday, September 24 2003 @ 01:41 PM EDT (#89679) #
After Coach sent me out to Corpus Christi to, let's see, what did he call it? ... "work on my delivery," I think ... I missed the big thou-a-thon.

It does take a site like this -- run by something called the ZLC -- to focus on what is and was, essentially "just another number."

This old editor's trained eye can pick out the fine writers like Coach and Craig and all -- take a step forward (not so fast, John Gizzi) -- better than any old *&^%$!! numbers can do. I can SEE the talent. It's old school. It's about knowing writing, and living writing, and watching writers interact with other writers ... it's just good plain old fashioned obvious who has it and who don't and don't give me any of that "Curriculum Vitae Percentage" and "Books Published Average" nonsensicrap.

By God, CoachKent, you done good, and prove again that the natural talent and get-go overcomes the percentages and numbers all you same-ermetrics fools an' floozies rely upon. By God.
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